ECOTAZ ECO Fuelsystems Fuel Enhancers - Does it work?

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  1. Oscar the KW

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    But at the end of the month it all averages out. Comparing fuel mileage from one run to the next is pointless in my opinion.
     
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  3. ECOTAZ

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    send me a pm with your boss's info and i will get it arranged.
     
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    I don't need to prepare an out, as I have said our product works on most all average drivers in the 4.8 to 7 mpg range. I have never tested our unit on a Cat that makes over 9 mpg. I just thought with your knowledge you were at the 9+ mpg range. My apologies for assuming!
     
  5. rollin coal

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    Up until last September my IFTA quarterly was 5.1 mpg the actual running tally was 5.6 mpg. Still waiting to see what first quarter IFTA will be this year. Since September '11 I've been at 5.8 and higher and for the last 3 weeks I've been above 6.1 mpg hand calculated every fill up. In the year and a half prior to installing Eco I can count on two hands a few inconsistent trips here and there between 500-700 miles where I broke the 6.0 mpg number, with lots of steady mid 5's, and twice got to 7.1 and 7.2 respectively driving very focused and like a blue hair. I never once in that time frame had a consistent average on a whole week of better than 6.0 not even when I had weeks of light loads. With Dice's truck looks like it might not be having an impact. I have to wonder if there is a point somewhere at which an engine/truck reaches peak efficiency. I know, just another excuse.. Well my unit obviously has lots of room for efficiency improvements and from where I sit it worked.
     
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  6. Sly Fox

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    The simple fact comes down to: in a specific engine in a specific truck given all the variables: rolling resistance, wind resistance, accounted for... there's only so high your MPG can EVER go. No matter how great the rolling resistance of the tires, wind deflectors, air tabs, hub caps, rear trailer flaps, etc.

    You will reach a point where your engine just simply cannot get anymore output from a gallon of diesel. A new futuristic engine, transmission, or differential that is super efficient by today's standards are the only way.

    And if you're getting a new engine, transmission, axles, etc to get the job done, you're not really improving 'your' MPG, you're just swapping big parts rather than buying a new truck.

    I have an '06 Freightliner Century with a Series 60 14L engine. I get about 6.1 real MPG on a weekly basis including DH and loaded (usually in the 70+ gross weight). It is what it is.
     
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  7. Hammer166

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    you just can't go making things up and say that it only works on trucks getting less than 7 miles per gallon. if your magic blow pipe does what it supposed to it shouldn't matter what miles per gallon the truck is getting it should improve it. and you can attack me all you want, it doesn't change the fact that if your unit is changing the specific consumption, there will be a change in mile per gallon. how does your unit work on cars if it only works below 7 miles per gallon?

    Forgive the formatting guys, had to post from phone.
     
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  8. rollin coal

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    So what you're saying is - there's really no reason Dice or anyone for that matter shouldn't be able to get their truck up to 10mpg, then 20mpg, and then from there go on to 30mpg? You know better than that. Either something works to improve fuel mileage or it doesn't. But there will always be a limit to what can be achieved out of any vehicle. You can only do so much and go so far. So why sit there and argue, just for the sake of arguing?
     
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  9. rickybobby

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    I agree, i dont know much about mechanics. But, i do know there is a limit. I dont post much , but i do read alot. I knew when Dice started testing the product, he already had his mind up to fail it.
     
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  10. Jfaulk99

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    I only check this thread for entertainment purposes, and it's been full of it. I understand exactly how these "magical pipes" work. It's just like sugar pills! If someone installs this POS to "save fuel" they of course drive like they're trying to save fuel and guess what........:biggrin_25525: The reason it's not going to work on Dice's truck is because he ALREADY drives this way. In fact I bet I couldn't stand to follow him for more than a mile before I wanted to run him off the road. I don't fault him one bit, he's made it his goal to save fuel no matter the cost, I for one couldn't stand to do it but to each their own.

    I laugh when people measure their trucks fuel economy in tiny fractions. "this super duper stick on plastic miracle device made my truck gain .0001mpg!" Logic goes right out the window with some guys when money is concerned. A hot truck fuel tank will expand and hold more than a cold one, parking on a rock at the fuel island can gain you 1/2 gal easily in a fill up. I can gain .5mpg on paper if I change the direction the truck is facing when filling up just by the fall put in the concrete pad.:biggrin_2559:
    If putting an overpriced piece of pipe in your fuel line makes you drive differently so you can save fuel then great, have at it.:biggrin_25525:
     
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  11. Hammer166

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    No, that's not my point! You are absolutely correct that you can't just stack improvements up to get unlimited mileage. But all the other improvements are drag reducing, only the ECOTAZ claims to improve combustion. If it offers a 5% improvement in fuel burned, that should hold fairly constant across the consumption curve. So it doesn't matter where you start on the mpg scale, you should see an improvement with combustion efficiency improvements. The amount of fuel saved will be vastly different at 9 mpg vs 6 mpg, but the percentage should hold steady.
     
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