ECOTAZ ECO Fuelsystems Fuel Enhancers - Does it work?

Thanks Stranger, It is always good when the whole story is told and not just parts to distort the full picture. Thank You!

 

And the entertainment just keeps coming. What a joke!

 

ECOTAZ, it is YOU that is distorting the full picture. From your own document:

By your own admission, "test procedures were felt to be inadequate", "and the potential for error in measurement and calculations when dealing with such short drive cycles and small amounts of fuel as when using the volumetric method. A more long-term test plan is reasonable in this case to get a more accurate picture of the fuel economy benefit."

This was from 2004. It's 2012. You've had 8 years to get your act together and get a new test plan implemented, and you've failed to do so.

My question is - did you do the tests and find that your device doesn't really work? If so, then your marketing is outright fraud. If not, then what's your excuse for marketing your devices based on improved fuel economy without doing the follow up testing?

A responsible company with a device that actually works would do the testing to prove it. My guess is that you're not in a hurry to do the testing because you already know what the result will be.

 

Well Sherlock the EPA certification protocol is the way it was tested.
We proved that the test is improper to show the fuel savings. However it did show substantial reductions in Emissions. You cannot lower emissions without increasing power or saving fuel.
The grant was issued by a comittee of Automotive Phd. professors from the Universities of A&M, Baylor Texas, Texas Tech and Houston. They found merit in the tests that were previously run by many government agencies and the Houston Ship Channel.
If you read the Full context of the test and the test rebutal you should be able to answer all of your own questions instead of raising suspicions.

We have been investigated by the Chief of Consumers Affairs Division of the Texas Attorney General. They found that we were selling as advertised. We have been given recognition awards from CleanCities Coalitions Federal Program and the US Energy Dept. and many of our Customers recieved Congressional Recognition for Voluntarily lowering Emissions and Saving taxpayers money.
These included School Districts, Counities, and Municipalities. Most all Sheriff and City Police Departments use the ECO's on their fleets in Central, South and West Texas.

and i am not related to any of these people.

In the coming months you will see a lot more positive results

 

I didn't expect a middle school response to a serious challenge, but whatever...

You were on a dynamometer, it would have been a simple matter to include the engine power output data. You chose not to. Why? You also admitted that you could have modified the duration of the test runs to get more accurate results. Why didn't you?

I did read it, and I asked for clarification from you. Straight answers.

Again, I would welcome those.

Any company that is marketing a fuel saving device has a steep uphill battle to prove their claims due to the many fraudulent companies that precede you. It is my opinion that you are not providing sufficient proof. My opinion is further reinforced by the fact that you launch personal attacks on those that ask you for further proof. This coupled with your reports of successful fleet sales implying significant cash flow tell me that while you can afford to do the testing to provide this proof, you choose not to. Because you know that your product doesn't work. And you're happy to keep the tradition of P. T. Barnum alive and well at the expense of the gullible American consumer. Prove me wrong.

 

Compare pre-EGR BSFC to current engine's numbers and come try that line again.

 

I am talking about in the combustion chamber only. Not the exhaust with all the new dpf etc.

 

we could not change anything on the testing. All protocol was set by the state according to EPA's protocol.
The same one that on a new vehicle tells you that you get 18 on city driving and 21 hiway and then in real world you get 14 in city and 17 hiway,
Oh yes and the Prius was to get over 45 mpg and the real world Pruis mileage is around 35.

 

The pre-07 egr motors are also worse than their predecessors. No dpf on them. And even on dpf motors, it's what happens in the chamber that's killing mileage because of egr. You just can't go making blanket statements like "power or mpg has to go up if emission go down."

 

I do get defensive when people that have never tried the product just go Bashing our system. Go off calling us snake oil, jokers, fraud and etc. and have no experience whatsoever with it. On these last 4 pages none of you attacking us are interested in Our product. Only intersted in your own knowledge of science or you have an agenda. No one is twisting your arm to buy anything. In fact why do you keep coming back to this thread if you don't believe any of this? Why does Dice want to test and at the same time Bash the product and then thanks everyone that says something negative? But yet will not provide the ECM report from his own truck. None of the positive testers have jumped into your bowl of wheaties! Those that did test have nothing to loose. But a few of you here even call your own O/O colleagues liars. Just because they are saving money monthly from their fuel costs. You do not want them to believe that they felt an increase in power on their trucks, you do not want them to believe that they got an extra 200 miles from his last fillup and is continuing to do so. You do not want them to believe that they are shifting less and their trucks are running better. I know it is easy to state derrogatory statements here when you hide behind a fake name and don't even need to state or prove your true profession. It is hard for me to believe a Professional trucker would spend this much time bashing a product he has no knowledge of. Especially when you have members that stated it worked for them. Now if you tried one and it did not work for you then you can bash all you want. Even though you aren't loosing anything cause you get a full refund if you are not happy. When the question was asked If this product worked, I offered free units to test. A few skeptics stepped up and then some more. I believe we did a total of 15 free units. Then we had another 20 O/O's buy units. All posted positive results. Where were you negative guys then? After the positive results were posted then Came all the Nay-Sayers.
Now that Dice decided to do his little dog and pony show Here come the rest to his rescue.
Well I can only say that The O/O's putting more money in the Bank and less in the pumps are the smart ones. I don't think any of the nagative statements here will convince the positive testers to remove the units and start paying more for fuel expenses.