What's a 1,000 lbs weight reduction worth to you?

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  1. trucking_noob

    trucking_noob Bobtail Member

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    I'd like to get some feedback as to what a 1,000 lbs weight reduction for a tractor-trailer combo would mean to you. Is that really significant or is there a minimum weight reduction that you need in order to be useful? How would you use the extra weight advantage (e.g. more cargo? no cargo and save money on gas?)? How much would you pay to chop off 1,000 lbs?

    I was chatting with the fleet manager for the company I work with (we have a small private fleet that includes a couple semi's) and he mentioned that it would help in the winter, given the extra snow that collects on the top of the truck and trailer. I never thought of that. Anyone else care to comment?
     
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  3. SmoothShifter

    SmoothShifter Defender of the Driveline

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    It's a game of numbers.

    Produce haulers will actually stop and get 50 gallons a fuel at a time to maintain under a certain gross weight.

    A buddy of mine has a 99 Pete and an older 48' reefer trailer with a spread axle that weighs 37,500 lb. empty and he is constantly challeneged to make gross and axle weights with a 43,000 lb. load. He contemplating a new trailer just to save 1,500 lbs.

    1,000 lbs. is significant. Most of your 80,000 lb. freight is in the 42 - 45,000 lb. range, and they expect to be able to load that legally. So, an under 35,000 lb. empty weight, including fuel and people in the vehicle is paramount.

    I wouldn't spec my equipment over potential snow collection. Most of the snow will blow off within 15 miles of running, so it's moot.
     
  4. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    If you're paid by the ton, that's 1/2 ton more per trip that you can haul...which adds up pretty quick.

    The question I'd have is where exactly this weight loss is coming from? If it affects the strength & durability or the reliability of the truck, I'd rather run with the extra weight. Repair bills & downtime add up a heck of a lot quicker than that extra 1/2 ton of freight is going to pay. The truck only makes money when it is on the road hauling freight.
     
  5. ironeagle2006

    ironeagle2006 Road Train Member

    Back in 99 I had a C120 that with a 53 foot Reefer I could and Did scale out 47500 all the time. Helped the Boss Respec the Fleet out and got the trucks up to 48500 and he Loved the new Specs. We got More Power Less Weight and did it all with Easy to get componants. What did it mean to the Company try an Extra 40-50 CPM on a normal load each way as we got the loads no one else could even attempt to haul.
     
  6. trucking_noob

    trucking_noob Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for all of the great answers, keep 'em coming! I was reading a lot about lightweighting and the use of aluminum to replace steel and I got some general ideas but thought it would be great to hear the individual thoughts of truckers.

    Maybe a question I could also ask is, where do you think you'd benefit the most from the weight reduction? Wheels? Bodywork?

    Oh, and sorry for my ignorance but what does "Extra 40-50 CPM" mean?
     
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  7. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    1000 lbs is significant, but, really, how often do you load/gross 80k exactly ? In a perfect world, you would load on a scale, full fuel with driver on, and then the shipper would continue to add product until you're sitting on 79,975 gross. (you'd need 25 lbs to play with, right ?) Prime's running some equipment with one fuel tank and no passenger seat to save on weight for one of their accounts, and here in S.Ca., there's a sand/gravel outfit that runs bottom dumps with TWO tail lights only, not the normal four.....I mean, come on, how much does a tail light assembly weigh ? 8 ounces ?
     
  8. trucking_noob

    trucking_noob Bobtail Member

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    Thanks Iron Eagle. Can I ask what you were hauling?
     
  9. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    Prime is pushing customer requests for 46,000 loads because of those trucks too.

    42" sleeper cascadia's. Back to the day of small cabs and sleepers. No thank you.
     
  10. Jfaulk99

    Jfaulk99 Road Train Member

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    Depends on the product hauled. We have a few grain trucks that load to 80k almost every trip. Their empty weight is entered into the computer. The appropriate net weight is loaded into an overhead hopper with scales and is loaded into each truck. It's used to load rail cars but can load either. The 1000# is a big deal to them.
     
  11. Cat sdp

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