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Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Clasix1055, Apr 29, 2012.

  1. Clasix1055

    Clasix1055 Even when I'm wrong I'm right

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    1. What is better snap or rachet binders?

    2. Are snap binders dangerous?

    3. How do you properly secure a snap binder? (ie do you wrap the chain around it)

    4. Is a coil bag a waste of money?
     
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  3. Logan76

    Logan76 Crusty In Training

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    I prefer snap binders, They have a type of snap binder where I work that the handle pivots so your always pushing downwards on your bar (when its over the handle for extra leverage) and I feel they are a little safer than trying to push the #### thing upwards towards your face to loosen them.

    You can wrap the chain around if it you like but I used only snap binders when I Would haul scrap equipment and even on rubber tire machines I didn't have any trouble with them coming loose, Snap binders are way easier and faster than ratchets in my eyes.
     
  4. MNdriver

    MNdriver Road Train Member

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    I have used both and prefer snaps.

    Ratches are nice if the load settles, faster to re-tighten. Snaps you have to let tension off, reset the chain and then tighten.
     
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  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Either one will secure the load. Some situations a ratchet binder is more suitable for the job, whereas other situations the snap binder will be preferable.

    Only as dangerous as the person using them. If you can't keep your face and other body parts clear of the binder when securing or releasing them, you probably shouldn't be using them.

    Either wrap the chain around it or sometimes I'll use a heavy duty zip tie. As long as the chain is tight, they really don't come undone.

    Depends upon how often you haul coils, the size of the coils you haul, whether the coil bag you buy fits over the coils you haul, etc.
     
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  6. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    I always cringe when I see RT equipment secured with chains, or spring suspension equipment secured by chains to the sprung part of the chassis frame. It seems like a good bump in the road would create enough inertia to compress the tires / springs and snap the chains when the equipment bounced back up again.
     
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  7. Kansas

    Kansas Road Train Member

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    1. Both binders have there place. Sometimes you dont have the working room to use a snap. So ratchets can be used. I always carry at least a couple ratchets, the rest are snaps.

    2. Hell yeah they can be dangerous. If your dumb enough to stand in the way, theyll knock the teeth right out of your mouth. Dont stand in the way.

    3. I use carabiners myself. I think most guys just wrap chains around them. I honestly dont know what the legal way to do it is, but Ive never been yelled at about it.

    4. Depends on how often you haul coils, if the majority of my work was coils. You bet id own one or more.
     
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  8. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    1. Each one is excellent for certain applications, depends on what you are securing.

    2. Can be very dangerous, take your head off deadly.

    3. Wrap is ok, but not possible sometimes.

    4. Waste of money if you are a casual coil hauler, dedicated coil haulers mostly run covered wagons.
     
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  9. Mommas_money_maker

    Mommas_money_maker Road Train Member

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    1. Snap binders are faster and easier but I keep 4 ratchet binders (hardly get used ) just for situations where you dont have room to close the snap binder.

    2. Like others have said, only if your dumb enough to be on the wrong side of them when closing them as in pushing them closed instead of pulling. Or if you are standing close when somebody is closing one and your on the bad side or when its wet out, bar can slip off if you arent careful.

    3. Wrap a little chain around it and then take a bungee and hook to that and wrap that tightly around it. If you dont have enough chain, its legal to use the bungee wrapped around it. They do make a clip just for this purpose that you can buy.

    4. I dont haul many coils so for me its a waste of money.

    If you plan on hauling coils, dont buy those cheap quality coil racks either.
     
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  10. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    My preference is ratchets. I have the Quickbinders and can spin them down or back pretty fast by rolling them between my hands, then using the handle to finish tightening. I do carry a few Lebus style (snap) binders, but try to avoid using them. They can be very dangerous. If you do use them, do not ever let someone else tighten them. I upset a guy one time by not letting him tighten mine. He was about 6 foot 7 and probably weighed around 260. I was 5 foot 5 and weighed about 135. I explained to him what was likely to happen when I got to the other end and didn't have him along to loosen them. He then understood and grinned about it. He was big enough that he could have tightened them enough to squeeze the water out of my chains.
    The handles are supposed to be secured. DOT has been nailing people on that. Wrapping the chain does work, if you can. I just use bungees.
    Coil bags are commodity specific. Great if you haul lots of coils, but pretty much worthless, if you don't.
     
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  11. the gambler

    the gambler Medium Load Member

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    Most of the other questions have been Covered. But to add to the binder question. I will use both if chaining something I need to pull on in opposite directions.

    For example I will pull forward with the snap binder first then get both chains as tight as I need By pulling to the rear with the ratchet binder.
     
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