Safe Haven?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by N172, May 8, 2012.

  1. N172

    N172 Light Load Member

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    So I was in a truck stop with my trainer, TA in Golden CO to be exact, and my trainer overheard some other drivers talking about being allowed, legally, to drive to a Safe Haven if the driver ran out of miles and can't stop on the side of the road. My trainer said that it is not allowed, more so for Central Ref I think. the other drivers stated it was federally allowed. #What is the correct answer here? I know that some people just need to trip plan better, but there might be some instances that would require that extra time to get to a safe place to stop for the day/night.
     
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  3. wolfy7203

    wolfy7203 Light Load Member

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    I think only if there are Weather related or road closure(accident) reasons, other then that I dont think you can break your HOS to get to a safe haven.
     
  4. BeepBeep

    BeepBeep Bobtail Member

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    Legally you're allowed two extra hours to reach either your destination or a safe place to pull off in bad weather. I'm not sure about traffic/road closures granting the same thing. Check out the FMCSR.
     
  5. -MadMax-

    -MadMax- Light Load Member

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    I had to use one of these "exceptions" already.
    It was only good for ONE 16 hr day per week.

    I don't know all of the details on it. I was with my trainer. We use people-net paperless logs and the thing didn't log me off, it went into this "exception" so I assumed it was all ok.
     
  6. BeepBeep

    BeepBeep Bobtail Member

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  7. N172

    N172 Light Load Member

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    Thanks for the info, hopefully I won't ever have to use it.
     
  8. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Try to never use it.










    And if you should ever have to use it,

    make sure that you understand it 100%..........:biggrin_25514:
     
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  9. mitchtazz

    mitchtazz Road Train Member

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    just wait until you get to a shipper for a load with six hours on your clock, and then you end up doing an 8hr split just to get out of there, oh yes, it happens.. it's not always the drivers fault.. there's so many shippers and receivers that will eat up a drivers hours and think nothing of it because they're paying the company detention so they feel that it's justified, and then once the driver is out of hours and they finally load 'em they tell 'em that there's no over nite parking.. don't argue, dont raise any cane, just shrug your shoulders, node and walk away.. send a message and call dispatch explaining what happen and they'll usually tell you to go line 5 to get out of there to somewhere else. Delmonte in Lime Ridge, Pa has one serious track record for doing that B.S, i made $72 in detention off their arse because of it, requested that i not get sent there anymore.
     
  10. Emulsified

    Emulsified Road Train Member

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    'Safe Haven' as someone else pointed out, refers to Hazmat loads.
    A driver can park anywhere that is legal for a rig that size (no local covenants, ordinances, etc) and do their break.
    this includes ramps, streets, parking lots...lot's of places.
    But many companies have rules governing their drivers.
    About the only time you're up against these rules (other than company rules) are when a shipper kicks you off the yard or you aren't paying attention and run out of hours while driving.
    Extending your drive time, per FMCSA rules, regarding weather, means you haven't found a legal place to park due to the weather changing suddenly.
    So as an instance, if you are driving down I-80 with plans to stop in Laramie, but between there and Cheyenne the weather turns unexpectedly nasty and traffic slows to a crawl, you can drive up to 2 hours longer, but only as far as a legal parking location that is safe. This includes off ramps, on ramps, etc.
    Given the circumstances, I'm sure the police won't hassle you if you drive on to Buford and park there because of company policy. He's probably too busy with snow related traffic problems to worry about you anyway.

    the only other time you're allowed to move, without hours (that I'm aware of) is if you are ordered by a police or emergency responder (fire) for an emergency situation.
    This happened to me in San Antonio. The police knocked on my door and told me to move due to leaking fuel from an accident close by. My self and a couple other trucks moved to a nearby truckstop. Unfortunately, we all had to start our 10 all over again.
     
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  11. Kansas

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    Eventually youre going to be sitting a truck stop diner eating your dinner. Some know-it-all braggart trucker will begin spouting off about how he called the US Marshall's to come arrest a DOT LEO who was writing him a stack of tickets. The bragger boy will then tell you he claimed "Safehave" to the US Marshalls, and thats all it took for them to throw the DOT guy in jail. "By God, I was parked in a safe haven, they cant touch me so I had that sombeetch throwd in the hoosegow." Worst part of all, this guy will look you dead in the eye, and never blink or flinch while telling you that story.

    Dont you believe it LOL :biggrin_2559: :biggrin_2559: :biggrin_2559:
     
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