A note to the anti-auto crowd

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by striker, May 6, 2012.

  1. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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  3. BigBadBill

    BigBadBill Bullishly Optimistic

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    Drove a 2012 780 with the iShift and 40k in the box. Now that is hands down the best auto on the market. It is the same one that has been used in Europe for a decade and you would have thought you where driving the family station wagon. Only way I knew it was shifting was from the sound.
     
  4. KD8FQB

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    It varies form state to state. You will get a restriction on your license in Michigan, I know that much.

    I think what's being said here is that drivers like to be in control of those gears instead of leaving it up to a computer...
     
  5. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Yup it's around a long time so it's a well tested technology and they really are very reliable.
     
  6. king Q

    king Q Road Train Member

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    You know in the early days of internal combustion engines the spark timing was not left up to an automatic control.
    The driver had to adjust it with a dial leaver usually located on the steering.
    I guess the drivers felt in control of the timing.

    Before there were air or electric solenoids the driver often had 2 sticks fitted to the gear box.
    I guess the drivers felt in charge of the shift instead of leaving it to a solenoid.
     
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  7. KD8FQB

    KD8FQB Light Load Member

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    I do prefer twin stick shifting...lol
     
  8. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Lol you are old school!!
     
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  9. Sportster2000

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    All of the Eaton brand transmission have a clutch in them and do not have a torque converter. The three pedal is the Autoshift. It has a regular clutch in it. It has two shift solenoids on it instead of a shifter handle. The Eaton Fuller Ultrashift had a centrifugal clutch in it. That is why they are so jerky. The Eaton Ultra shift Plus has a solenoid for the clutch mechanism and it has two shift solenoids on the top. So they all have the two shift solenoids on them. The only difference is the type of clutch accuation on them. As of right now Allision is the only transmission manufacture out there that has a true automatic with a torque converter.
     
  10. striker

    striker Road Train Member

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    I-Shift and M-Drive are basically the same thing with a different name plate. I've now driven both, Mack's setup is a push button on the dash, whereas Volvo uses a joystick setup (see KD8FQB, if you have the joystick design you'll still have something to stroke and take your mind off missing that manual :biggrin_2559:). Supposedly Mack is going to offer both the joystick design and the pushbutton design.


    exactly


    and the difference between the first gen. that I drove from 2000 til 2008 and the current generation '09 that I drive is like going from a VW Beatle to a S-Class


    Last time one of our manuals had to be rebuilt it was 8 days at Frieghtshaker, the first 4 was the company, freightshaker and Eaton fighting over who was paying for the second rebuild of the same trans in 2 months. 2 of the other 4 days was waiting for the parts to arrive and 2 days for Freightshaker to put it back together CORRECTLY!!


    Mack's M-Drive and Volvo's I-Shift use torque converters, they are 2 peddle designs
     
  11. Bob The Dinosaur

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    I do believe if i ever do buy another rig, might look at that v8 powered scania might be like an ole 600 horse 355 cat power converted deisel thou that is a far peice off.....
     
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