Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    You'd fecking throw up if you had our rules! So for yer own sake resist these elogs, some feckin politician will see them and think they are a great thing not knowing they will destroy every small operator and o/o in the country!
     
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  3. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    there are regional rules as regards speed limits and even passing out but hours regulations are the same but what gets you a €30 fine in Italy gets you 2 years in prison in belguim , you'd wanna be an international lawyer to figure it all out, you would think the same laws mean the same punishments for infringements ? I'd hate to see you guys end up like us!
     
  4. Tazz

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    Uhm twice in two years I have driven home on elogs over the limit. One 16 minutes over and the other one 19. I'll let you in on a secret when I did it on paper I showed exactly what I did same as elog shows.

    I am not worried that the gerstapo is going to come kicking my door down because those events are recorded. My truck did not shut off, no black helicopter swooped in and arrested me. In fact the most interesting conversation I had with an officer stemmed from me logging a traffic jam exactly as it happened and driving into my 18th hour. Could I have falsified and made it look right on paper? Sure but I would know it was a lie, and if examined closely it could be proven as I had to cover about 25 miles to get to a safe parking area. The PA trooper was flabbergasted when. He asked about it. But after hearing why it was like that and reading the regulations he conceded what I did was legal and really the only choice I had.


    Are some changes going to come about when the record is a little harder to falsify? Oh sure. Same as when they were threatening ten hours instead of eleven. It would have cost me getting home approximately three hours later a week on average. Would I like it probably not. Probably not enough to make me quit though. So long as I get what time off I require and I recieve what compensation I require I'll do this. When those factors are not met for any reason I will not. Who knows if every one gets compliant instead of just getting 'er done people might concede changes to the HOS need to be made.
    Hard to tell when 20% (according to SMS averages) of people consistently operate outside those boundaries.
     
  5. Autocar

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    The penalties here are not the same, nationwide. All 50 states have their own penalties, even though they are enforcing the Federal regs. On some of the regs, the Feds can step in and assess their own civil penalties, on top of the ones imposed by the states.
    Sorry, but I do not subscribe to the theory that the sky is falling.
     
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  6. MSheets

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    Passenger carrying pilots have it worse than us. The FAA stated a couple weeks ago cargo pilots are going to be next on the list for changes.
     
  7. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Oh of course, it used be like that here, not anymore! I'm not jokin, you can't break your hours unless it's an emergency, if it's an emergent you gotta prove it! Our tacho's keep the data for 1 year so you can be caught anytime in that year, also we have a 'digi card' like a bank card that records everything we do so when we move to another truck our activities are recorded in that truck too, interference with the card or recorder is a prison scentence for fraud !
     
  8. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    Put it to you this way, if I drive through England tomorrow, this is one of the countries that have a private company to monitor our hours, in my 6 hour drive tru I will be stopped and checked on average twice! It's almost intolerable !
     
  9. Cowmobile

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    Most drivers here aren't going to risist them because, most are too dumb to know any different, and they need their hand held every waking moment, and need to be told why, how, or what they can and can't do. And we all know how much work it is to fill out a paper log, an elog will just make it easier to be lazy..
     
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  10. Scania man

    Scania man Road Train Member

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    That's a pity really but they should resist them, I'm living with these 'elogs' everyday, you can't make money as a small operator ( maybe why big operators want them ) they've killed off 90% of o/o here and you're so right, they're great for lazy feckers that don't want to work, on the other hand people like me and you know in order to make money you need to work for it and these elogs actually stop you from doing that!
     
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  11. Scania man

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    It's the same everywhere , people are not educated enough to make up their own minds,
     
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