Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Exemptions are normally given for short periods, such as disaster relief, seasonal agricultural, etc. The only long term exemption/exception I have seen is the 100 air mile radius for local hauling. Also, the EOBR rule, I believe applies as a vehicle equipment rule, for enforcement of the HOS, not as a HOS rule unto itself.
    As the rules are not yet written, we can only guess what they will look like. However, you can bet they will cover any trucks involved in interstate transportation and most likely those involved in hazardous material transportation, whether interstate or intrastate.
     
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  3. shredfit1

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    What do you think will happen when EOBR's are mandated and there will be fuel shortages that lead to high prices, thus driving the price of ALL shipped goods up? I guess you don't realize how problematic this is, given the way things are handeled in the midwest now. I've outlined how it could work... but would take years to implement, not to mention 100's of millions of coin... perhaps billions. Meanwhile, there are more trucks on the road than EVER before... and accident fatality rates are down. So, it's clearly NOT about safety. Just how can you sell this to the public..?

    Like I said, if they do mandate them... and there is massive shortages because of it... How do you think they should resolve the issue?
     
  4. G/MAN

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    The government will suspend the hos or any other rules when it is convenient or to the benefit of the state. If they can suspend the hos when it suits them or during a national emergency without any consequences, such as having more accidents, then that is proof enough for me that the hos should be suspended, permanently. If there is no impact on safety when the hos are suspended during a national emergency then there is no valid safety reason for even having the hos other than justifying the existance of an over bloated government bureauracy and as a revenue generation tool.
     
  5. shredfit1

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    Pretty tough to argue the other side... when you put it like this... I agree, as soon as the powers that be figure out what the EOBR mandate will do... economy wise... It will be dropped faster than Obama can raise a cool Million for his reelection fund... yup! That's pretty quickly!
     
  6. poppapump1332

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    I remember the propane shortage on the east coast back in the early 2000s I would load the wagon 95% and dot never bothered me grossed out about 88000 btw for you rookies your only allowed 90%
     
  7. G/MAN

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    These people that are always pushing for more and more legislation don't seem to think through the repurcussions of those laws before passing them. Until it affects them personally, they don't pay much attention. All they see is them getting more power and making more money.
     
  8. poppapump1332

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    It's all about the money remember that if a law is passed has nothing to do with safety
     
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  9. G/MAN

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    If anyone wants to pass a bill using safety as the primary reason for it's passage, then they should be willing to demonstrate based upon real world studies that it will make roads safer and that it is necessary. If they can't then it should not even be allowed to come to committee. Politicians and special interest groups will often put in pet bills into major spending bills so that if you want the entire bill you will need to also vote for their amendment. As far as I know, there have never been any real world studies that prove that EOBR's are necessary and that using them will make roads safer. The same thing can also be said about hos.
     
  10. TheRoadWarrior

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    Since the goverment and the commie group ATA decided what was best for trucking and as gman said without a true study of eobr then whats next for trucking. So will the government pass a law all Mexican trucks that cross the border have them I freaking doubt it. The HOS were fine till they stuck their hands in it and tried to tell the industry that this was the best way.to go and its still a mess. Put it back the way it was and u wont have tired drivers as they can then split it like we use to do. Hell I was better rested back then when I could split my time and log my hr off duty to eat or shower. If todays new drivers cant do a paper log God help us.
     
  11. fireba11

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    Like I said in a earlier post....If we just stand here and do nothing on the EOBR's then next thing you know we will have a camera trained on the driver and our voices recorded while driving, where does it stop?
     
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