No Idling Laws and Walmarts
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by Female Driver, Jul 15, 2012.
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I never questioned why they do not want me idling. I did not imply I could do whatever I wanted to on their land. I do not need you to "hate" to point out that I chose to work here. Furthermore, as for your original post, I do not need you to point out to me that Walmarts are private property. I do not need you to tell me that owners of private properties can set their own rules. I do not need you to point out that I may "feel free" to find a better motor carrier.
See all that listed in the paragraph above? Yeah, even if you didn't say any of that with "tone", you're being quite the jerk, regardless. If you want to express your desire for all of us to not break the rules, then do so nicely. Certainly that is within your capabilities, no?
In addition, your words make it sound as if you're implying I idle my truck all the time at Walmarts and states with no-idling laws. I don't. Did you happen to see where I wrote that? Or perhaps where I said it's exceptionally hot and humid today?
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Here's my take...I'd rather get a ticket and have to appear in court, than take the chance that I may never wake up from my 10 hour break(due to heat exhaustion if you're lucky enough to fall asleep in those conditions). Also, I won't bake in a truck for anyone on this green earth. The pet provision for idling just shows how little these suits care about truck drivers. We aren't humans to them, because we don't get treated like one. It's them against us, so stand up for yourself and do what you think is humane..ie: the best for yourself.
Also, are you parked up in front of the store? If so, go around back and park near the loading docks. That's a more "familiar" place to find a idling truck, so you would have a better chance of going unnoticed.NavigatorWife, aiwiron, Numb and 3 others Thank this. -
Female trucker if you will go look at my first response to you there is no tone. Hard fact yes.It is implied you want to know how much trouble you can get into violating both state law and Walmart policy. I simply pointed out to violate their request in the short term may cause no consequence but long term is most likely going to be irrevocable if drivers continue to violate it. Unless you can give me the name of the store whom has removed those bars.
Another poster pointed out you had a choice and then you implied you were not given one. That would be a false statement.
As for my warning about idling it was not solely or in fact even directly aimed at you but rather the drivers on the thread with the" screw them I'll do what I want" attitude. Hopefully you are not among these, personally I have no idea if you are or not.
Now again do as you wish, but I ask you to consider the conseqquences of your decisions. -
If you remember, when Richard M. Nixon signed the EPA into law way back when, the automobile manufacturing industry was hit hard, forcing them into MPG and emmissions requirements under an unrealistic timeframe resulting in some poorly performing cars throughout the 70s.
I didn't accept the fact that it's a cultural/political movement at first, but I do now. Some of us truck drivers think we are being singled out, without looking around at the big picture. These same policy makers have reached into our lives in areas way beyond how we earn our living. All one has to do is look at toilets, shower heads and light bubs that are now available(mandatory?) for your home. Lawn mowers, leaf blowers, edgers, chain saws etc. are tuned leaner and leaner to the point they don't perform properly and more electric models than gas are present on the shelves.
To answer your rhetorical question, I don't believe there is anything we can do to ever satisfy the Green movement. Just like politicians and taxes; they will never give you a straight answer to the question: How much is enough?Last edited: Jul 16, 2012
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As to Femaletrucker, you should not be taking a 34 reset at a Walmart store. I know you do not like the truckstop, but that is very unprofessional to take it at a store. If you are that worried about your safety or whatever then pony up the cash and go to a hotel, or deal with it as a professional and go sit at the truckstop. -
I absolutely do not want to have Walmarts revoke their permission for us to use their parking lots. I very much hate breaking rules, but I'm allowing myself to do so today because because it's nasty outside. But more than hating breaking rules, I hate being caught breaking the rules.Tazz Thanks this. -
For the second part - I only have 3 months of driving under my belt. What is unprofessional about parking at a Walmart for a reset? Especially when you were unsure if you had enough hours left on your 70 to even get to a truck stop, and were looking for the best, for sure option nearby? -
I was in a clean air certified truck with an ICON idle system on company terminal property and a cop in Carlisle PA came and wrote a 300 dollar ticket for idleing.
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a walmart is for shopping, a truckstop if for parking a truck. Walmarts are not designed for a semi-truck. It's like parking at the McDonalds, Elementry School, or police Station... just because it's there doesn't mean you can park there or should. Almost running out of your 70 is not a valid excuse because trust me, a DOT officer won't accept it either, they will say, and I quote and others will agree "You should have planned better accordingly". There is no reason you can't make it to a truckstop for a reset, and the MCP200 Qualcomm can;t control your life and neither can your dispatcher. You should have known a day earlier that you only had XX amount of hours to drive and relayed that in your MACRO18 to them so they knew they couldn't send you over that. i realize you are new to this, and you'll learn as you go along, but just in the future, don't park at Wal-Mart.
And also, I guess tyou are not showering on your 34 reset either, which is also not very hygenic or professional.... just saying.teflondave Thanks this.
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