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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Thomas0810, Nov 12, 2007.

  1. Thomas0810

    Thomas0810 Road Train Member

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    I delivered a load this morning about 60 miles from my house after getting unloaded sent in my empty call,waited an hour and called my dispatcher she said i was 47th on the list for a load out of texas not counting the Laredo terminal.She said i could go to the house and wait for a load.My question is should i log it on line 1 after arriving at the house or keep it on line 4 till my 14 is up?I am worried that i will get a load at some crazy time in the middle of the night and they can say well you have been off duty since 12:00 pm roll out at 10:00pm after being up all day.I have been going to my truck to check the qualcomm every 30 minutes since 11:30am.Thanks in advance for any help with this matter.
     
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  3. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    The rules state if you are relieved from work & all responsibility from terminal to home. NOt customer to home. I would log it as this is a very fine line. You might get over on some DOT's and log auditors, however I stress to always log it unless you are driving from a terminal to home. Just to be on the safe side. Read below this is from the DOT website and again it states "short distances" this is very vague in the Federal DOT book, I wish they would # least give a # of miles. :biggrin_25521:

    Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a CMV for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?

    Guidance: When a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver's home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver's terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver's en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver's home, from the driver's home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier's CMV for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.

    A driver placed out of service for exceeding the requirements of the hours of service regulations may not drive a CMV to any location to obtain rest.
     
  4. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

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    I say go home then log off duty. Your company relieved you of responsibilty and the fact is you dont want to be burning your hours on line 4 when you arent getting paid for that.
    Remember as an otr driver your paid by the mile and the fewer hours you log on line 4 the more hours you will have available for line 3 which is where you make your money. Got to remember the 60/7 day or 70/8 day rule (not sure which your company uses).
     
  5. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    Now it sounds like you are telling him to log illegal? You know I will chime in!

    Unfortunately logging line 4 would not even be logging it legal. You would be logging line 3.

    Did you know there was a driver who ran illegal going home and parked his truck and wham a drunk driver hits his truck and gets killed. Guess what happened to the truck driver? Can you say he is hanging out with Bubba:biggrin_2554:

    You can do as you please, however always keep in mind if I am in a accident and it's serious they will be pulling the last 30 days worth of logs and possibly more and any other documentation such as qualcom records, tolls, scales etc. So be carefull
     
  6. rwings

    rwings <strong>"Jet Force"</strong>

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    Thomas0810,
    I had a dispatcher for a while that liked to play this game. He would have me sit all day and then give me a load to run all night. The next time he did it, I logged 15 minutes on line 4 ever hour and a half to keep my 14 hour clock running, without burning up my hours. He must have gotten the message because he didn't do it again. I realize that giving up hours available will affect my pay but I am not desperate enough to have my sleep messed up on a regular basis.
    :biggrin_25515:
     
  7. Brickman

    Brickman Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    How can he be on line 3 if he is sitting at the house waiting for a load watching TV or posting on the trucker's report????????????????????????????
     
  8. Cybergal

    Cybergal Road Train Member

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    :thumbleft::biggrin_2559:
     
  9. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    The discussion was he was logging line 4 to drive from the customer to home. He wouldn't be on line 4, he would be on line 3.
     
  10. LogsRus

    LogsRus Log it Legal

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    This is what I am referring to.

    When he is home playing on the net, he can log it in the sleeper (no just kidding) it would be off duty. :biggrin_25525:
     
  11. myminpins

    myminpins Road Train Member

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    Maybe he misread this? Go home THEN log off duty. That's perfectly fine.
     
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