Pre EGR overrated ?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by new2me, Aug 16, 2012.

  1. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    You are ten years off of the last factory installed pre-emission motors. Sooo, along with rebuilding the million mile motor, will more than likely be all the main wear items like tires brakes etc. Then did the previous owner rebuild the trans clutch rears king pins u joints etc. within a recent time frame? You have to know what you are doing if you are buying this sort of truck or at least have access to a quality shop.

    I talked to a Pete dealer who was in love w/red motors. Told me all I would have to do within every three year period was turbo, possibly two egr valves & one egr cooler & that was the avg.(obvious maintenance items excluded from his sales pitch) Screw that, will hang on to my yellow C12 & do a platinum inframe before jumping on that wagon. My local KW dealer will not sell me a 07.5-10, they flat out said they would not do that to me. Sends a pretty clear message doesn't it?

    I wish I could afford a new glider, but way out of my range for now.

    But thinking I saw cowpie1's new ride rolling east out of Omaha area two days ago around noon. *I think*
     
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  3. new2me

    new2me Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, glider is basically the body with out power-train right? If so I cant afford that now.
     
  4. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    You could be right. I was running around Blair, Fremont, and Columbus NE a couple of days ago and heading east to Indianapolis on 80. When I get the graphics done, there will be no doubt if you see my truck. I will post picks when that part is done. Got my graphics shop putting together several variations of an idea. I have given them some time. I told them I at least want them on before cold weather. They are backlogged now, but at least I am on the list.
     
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  5. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Yes, but the gliders we are speaking of are assembled with motors/trans.... for about $105,000 you can get a new glider, ready to go. A new truck (non-glider) is going to run about $130,00 PLUS the Federal Excise Tax, which brings it up to about $150,000. There is no FET on a glider.
     
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  6. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    My credit union finances any trucks or trailers with any credit above 500 as long as you put 20% down. I've been thinking a glider would definitely be the way to go. In your opinion, YOUR opinion, which would you choose if money is tight? Pete 389 glider or western star glider?

    Ethan
     
  7. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    if you must, a Western Star glider between the two. PACCAR charges a BIG premium on their glider trucks, almost to the point that they are the same price as a brand new emissions one ($135,000 complete with motor)

    I honestly would go with a Coronado glider. They can be had for about $115,000 out the door, and are very nice inside and get descent MPG over the bricks mentioned above. trust me, my Star gets terrible MPG. But a Star with a 12.7 Detroit may not be so bad. If you could get it into the mid 7's then it would be well worth it.
     
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  8. LBZ

    LBZ Road Train Member

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    Talked to Truck Centers in IL a couple weeks back. They were saying they were around 10 grand cheaper than Fitzgeralds. Not sure of the details as 105 or 115 is too much for me,but worth looking into along with Harrisons or any reputable F/liner dealer.
     
  9. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Harrison's was where I was getting my numbers. $105k for a Columbia, $115k for a Coronado.....

    Peterbilt 389 gliders start around $90k and that's w/out any parts, just the kit !!!! But Pittsburgh power will put you one together for only $180k LMAO !!!!!
     
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  10. Oscar the KW

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    7mpg is "terrible"?
     
  11. nikmirbre

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    Im sorry i meant to say anything above 2004 is almost sure to be an emissions motor
     
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