COILS: Chains+straps or just chains?

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  1. Autocar

    Autocar Road Train Member

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    Yes, you can buy overweight permits for a single piece load. It MUST be one single piece of freight on the truck. With my 37,000 pound empty weight, I can do up to 43,000 without an overweight permit. Anything over 43,000 pounds, up to about 53,000 pounds, I need a permit. Beyond that, I can't haul it as I cannot axle it out to meet the parameters of the permits.
     
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  3. Clasix1055

    Clasix1055 Even when I'm wrong I'm right

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    Thanks Les ... I was unaware that you only had to secure half the weight
     
  4. Clasix1055

    Clasix1055 Even when I'm wrong I'm right

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    I understand that .... Guess I just didnt see a company like Boyd hauling heavy stuff like that ....
     
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    -insert name- ATM squishier

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    We had a contract up in the north hauling train cars, well, Boyd got dropped because they weren't sending the trucks back empty. Another reason was all the drop decks they had for ended up a mangled mess. You still see the trucks that were doing it, as they still have the strobe mounted.

    One drop deck, it sits at the Birmingham terminal beside Ole'Blue's maroon pete.
     
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    The Pornstar's are way heavier than my 9400i. That 53 footer I had. I was over by 3-4k, stayed away from the big road.
     
  7. The Admiral

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    The whole point is to hold the coil down into the coil racks and 4X4's,not pull the coil ahead and backwards. In the old days before all this securement enforcement we would put 2 chains on a 50K coil. Very rarely did you see any iron on the street. I mean if the only way you feel safe and secure is to put 8 chains and 3 straps on a coil then so be it. In my opinion there's a difference between respecting what's on the deck and fearing it. Pay attention to what the old timers are doing and don't be afraid to ask questions. Take the cotton out of your ears and insert it in your mouth.
     
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  8. JimTheHut

    JimTheHut Road Train Member

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    I was taught to drive the truck as if there were no securements on the load at all.
     
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  9. CAXPT

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    5/16" or 3/8"? Grade 70? <--- See, there are other considerations involved too, but based on your description you could have improved your securement. Assuming that you had 5/16" chain, which is only WLL rated at 4700 lbs. you have a total of 39,700 lbs of securement on 44,000 lbs.
    6 - horseshoe
    2 - X
    3 - strap
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    39,700

    This way:
    2 - horsehoe
    4 - X
    3 - strap
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    39,700

    How you ask did I get equal restraint with 2 less chains? It's in the positions of the chains. According to § 393.106(d) What are the general requirements for securing articles of cargo? , which lays out the values to use when using the aggregate WLL equation, chaining on the same side of the trailer (horseshoe) devalues the WLL of the devices lowest rating by 50%, meaning those 4700 lb WLL chains are now only worth 2,350 lbs WLL each. The middle X and the straps are the only devices getting 100% of their rated WLL value, depending on the weakest link. Straps of 5400 lb WLL are worth their full value, chains and binders also valued at 4700 lbs WLL value as long as they go from one side of the trailer to the other side.

    The difference is in getting the full value for the devices. Horseshoes are good for restraining the load's sideways movement to get out of the way of other drivers to finish securing and tarping the load but I prefer full value for the rest of the securement.

    Undoubtedly you found out that, because of spool locations and such, restraining that coil with more chains becomes kind of difficult after 6. Without spreading the chain so far away from the coil as not really being able to restrain it, adding another strap would be a better option and put you over the the coil weight, at 45,100 either way. This is the way I would do it.

    Hope this helps, and good Luck
     
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  10. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    I only use g70 3/8's chains on coils. I hardly ever use 5/16's on anything.

    Ethan
     
  11. The Admiral

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    There were guys who actually did that too. Especially the guys who had coil wells in their trailers. They would just put 1 chain in front of the front coil,either load the rest tight together or put spacer blocks between the coils and they were on their way. To the guy who built a bulkhead in front of the shotgun coil,just put a chain across the 4X4's in front of the coil,if you're afraid of marking up the coil put a short 4X4 between the chain and coil. It works!
     
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