Split Sleeper break

this isn't exactly true if you do this you pause your 14 hour clock with the 8 hours in the sleeper.. your 14 will not reset ever at this point without a full 10 hour break. you will only pick up what hours you WORKED prior to the first break which would be 5 hours plus whatever on duty time you have.. So you would run 5 take 8 in the sleeper so you would have 9 hours at this point drive 5 more hours which would leave you 4 hours left on your 14 with 1 hour to drive. then you take 2 hours ... Now you go back to the time you worked prior to the 8 hour break that is the time you gain.. at this point you are running on 5 hour pickups.. which is great if you can manage your time.. the only problem is it can get very confusing. This is how easy it is to understand..

Let me clarify.. the only time you will pick up is what you worked before the previous break.. but if you work five take five it will be 5.. kind of confusing.. what I would suggest is go to the highway patrol office and ask for clarification from a CMV certified officer.. because what I said in the above paragraph or 2 is true.. at least according to a Texas State Trooper in Smith County

defined in §§395.2 and 393.76 of this subchapter,(g)(1)(i)(A) Must, before driving, accumulate

(1) At least 10 consecutive hours off duty;

(2) At least 10 consecutive hours of sleeper-berth time;

(3) A combination of consecutive sleeper-berth and off-duty time amounting to at least 10 hours; or

(4) The equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty if the driver does not comply with paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1), (2), or (3) of this section;

(g)(1)(i)(B) May not drive more than 11 hours following one of the 10-hour off-duty periods specified in paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1) through (4) of this section; and

(g)(1)(i)(C) May not drive after the 14th hour after coming on duty following one of the 10-hour off-duty periods specified in paragraph (g)(1)(i)(A)(1)-(4) of this section; and

(g)(1)(i)(D) Must exclude from the calculation of the 14-hour limit any sleeper berth period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours.

(g)(1)(ii) Specific requirements.' The following rules apply in determining compliance with paragraph (g)(1)(i) of this section:

(g)(1)(ii)(A) The term "equivalent of at least 10 consecutive hours off duty" means a period of

(1) At least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours in a sleeper berth, and

(2) A separate period of at least 2 but less than 10 consecutive hours either in the sleeper berth or off duty, or any combination thereof.

(g)(1)(ii)(B) Calculation of the 11-hour driving limit includes all driving time; compliance must be re-calculated from the end of the first of the two periods used to comply with paragraph (g)(1)(ii)(A) of this section.

(g)(1)(ii)(C) Calculation of the 14-hour limit includes all time except any sleeper-berth period of at least 8 but less than 10 consecutive hours; compliance must be re-calculated from the end of the first of the two periods used to comply with the requirements of paragraph (g)(1)(ii)(A) of this section


You see it really is that simple..

 

you don't gain ANY hours of driving.

11 hours is 11 hours. PERIOD. and that's all you get.

 

#### good thing for computers. ROFL. if i can't do it. it tells me. it does all the thinking for me.

 

IMHO--and not at all what I do or how I do it--The problem with splitting sleeper--(or anything else in terms of logging)--is that many of these practices are as confusing to the authorities as they are to drivers--Put ten DOT officers in a room--and you will get at least 6(if not all ten)different versions.
Therefore I only log straightforwardly--and of course I use loose leaf logs!
just my $.02

 

Yes, 'olhand, that is exactly right. This is one of THOSE areas of the regulations where you will get various answers when you try and nail down the facts in clear terms. You can also get equally fuzzy results trying to clearly understand "personal conveyance"

 

The whole new HOS deal has been a disaster in my mind when it comes to enforcement--I have asked many different LEO's for their interpretation of various issues(only once during an inspection)and I am never ceased to be amazed at the differing of opinions--good thing is--MOST of the state enforcement types--cvsa including--have been very professional and forthcoming in their opinions of some of the new rules as well--As for the one time during an inspection--and it was an older Cal Diesel bear--and as he went over my paperwork and logs--we chatted about grandkids--trucking in general--and I felt real comfortable with the rapport we developed--and after he was finished--stickerd my truck and trailer-and we shook hands--he popped the question--"So is everything on those logs I checked really the complete truth." To which I replied: "Of course trooper--I always stay in bed for eight hours straight at my age don't you?" So we had a nice discussion about the new 10 hours off and the way it has been explained to me by various people--he added "I should hear some of the explanations he has been given" Then I admitted-"Since this nonsence started--I always log 1hour line one-followed by eight hours line 2-then 1hour line one--then a 15 min line 4 pretrip-Since every single person I have talked to agrees that this way works perfectly in everyone's mind"
Interestingly enough he agreed that it is the safest way to go--we shook hands again--and I drove off...
Just my $.02

 

he will cite FMCSA ~ you cite trainer - CMV inspector will cite FMCSA = let me know if you need asistaince with that as some of my posts are hard to deciper