why do drivers stand for governed trucks?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jamin22, Jul 18, 2012.

  1. drvrtech77

    drvrtech77 Road Train Member

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    you want to know why???....because too many drivers don't know how to drive..that's why.
     
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  3. afterburn25

    afterburn25 Medium Load Member

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    lol i have seen trucks it 9mpg even 10 or 11 but they had the little thingys dont remember what there called in the back of the trailer to make the rear of trailer more aerodynamic they really do work for fuel milage so does a lot of things progressive shifting for 1 steady spped using cruise control also helps there are things you can do to increase it and there are things you cant help like driving in mountains and having a heavy load but i dont believe for a second any truck gets 15 mpg no matter what you do if it did there would be more companies trying to get those kinds of trucks.
     
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  4. sdaniel

    sdaniel Road Train Member

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    Melissa valley is still dreaming of 15 mpg! And I can't think of any one that has put as much into fuel milage!
     
  5. midianlord

    midianlord Light Load Member

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    Another reason I won't do long haul anymore. City/short-distance, it doesn't really matter.

    Long-distance, it screws you even harder money-wise, and might just get you killed in the...a'hem..."right" situation.

    (Think real hard, now: Is your 25m long/40,000kg 18 wheeler going to have a better chance of stopping from motorway speed if something happens in front of you, or accelerating past and away from a situation, assuming you have an opening to do so? One of the most pants-filling "oh f***!" moments I've ever had was on the big road, and it happened because I ran out of speed trying to get away from it. Just 2-3km/h more would have been enough, but I hit that "wall" at just the best possible time...)
     
  6. Scorcher21

    Scorcher21 Light Load Member

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    Im seriously not going to read 49 pages of this but did get up to 17.
    I run a truck governed at 64. I run it at 63 and keep one in reserve to pass the just a bit slower truck, or on runs like this one with only 15K in the box i keep it pinned at 64. I slow down in speed zones to the posted speed limit even if it is only 60. The bottom line is this is not my truck. this is the companies truck. As for miles a day, running 7 days a week I have to keep my 70 rolling so I almost never max out my miles or hours. I try to run 8-9 hours a day, some less some more but on avg. Too many of drivers out here think this is a NASCAR loop, riding DOT bumpers and blowin the doors off of other vehicles. Some of you pedal pounders should take a physics course and realize the amount of energy released when an 70-80 thousand pound vehicle traveling at 70 -80 miles per hour hits something. I'm not driving around frightened by this knowledge but I am well aware of It while driving, one more thing to keep you on your toes. I could care less about my companies fuel bill or what I might be saving them, heck half the time I'm loaded 44-45 in the box and traveling through the Appalachians and am not getting squat for fuel economy. It's their truck, and I'm content with what I have.
     
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  7. midianlord

    midianlord Light Load Member

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    I have taken a great many physics courses, mate, in the process of trying to start a second career to get the f out of this piece of maggot-infested garbage industry --aced 'em all, if I may say so myself. (Well, except for Dynamics --that...errrm...stuff...ain't easy, maing.):biggrin_25525:

    And one thing all those courses taught me, is that, in real-world terms, it makes not one iota of difference if you hit something large and immovable in that semi at 130km/h, 100km/h, or 90km/h...The impact and energies it channels into your body will still kill you just as dead, just as quickly, and probably --given that the human body is basically just a bag of hamburger suspended in water tied together with some judiciously-positioned gristle-- just as messily.

    I'm not trying to win any races here, I got a nice turbo/intercooler kit for my '84 Supra that I'm saving up for for that (It will also corner and stop a lot better), I'm certainly not trying to be a Billy BigRigger --I'd have to, like ya know, give a flying crap about what I do for that, and that is not a mistake I'm going to make as regards trucking this time around--I am trying to keep myself safe.

    Because for ###### sure, no-one else will.

    Why should I care about anything else, beyond being alive to receive my paycheque every two weeks? It's not my truck either, but funnily enough, it is my responsibility to keep from wadding it up whilst it's under my control.

    That's why I would much rather be in front of the vehicles that can stop much, much faster than I can, rather than behind them.

    You know that old saw, right:

    "I don't have to out-run 'the Beast;' I just have to out-run you."

    That is how I look at it with civilians, I simply can't take a more charitable view given how many of these myopic, incompetent idiots have, without a thought or care in the world, all but literally tried to kill me out there.

    [/cynicism]
     
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  8. Scorcher21

    Scorcher21 Light Load Member

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    do not disagree at all with what you said, I guess I didnt really explain what I meant by that. Was just stating a lot of drivers do not understand the potential damage they can do if just one little thing goes wrong. And I truly believe a better education to all drivers would make things a lot safer out here. I'm horrible at trying to get my point across, but that's a bit closer.
     
  9. midianlord

    midianlord Light Load Member

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    Oh, my!

    More opportunity to work harder for less!

    OMGOMGOMGOMG...

    ...

    (Deep breath...Deeeeeeeeep breath)

    ...

    WHERE DO I SIGN???!!!

    Fail troll is fail.

    1/10.

    Next!

    E:

    For ####'s sake man, you can surely do better than that, no?
     
  10. metric adjustable

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    "Why do drivers stand for governed trucks?"

    maturity? Same way we should be putting up with speed limits and congestion. But then we wouldn't be faced with mandated governors had we been a touch more responsible. The chickens are coming home to roost, amidst a wave of politically motivated fingerpointing.

    Years back I bought a governed company truck. For the first while my avg speed was 62.5 mph. As soon as i could get her into a Detroit shop, I had my new baby opened up. A while later, i checked my records to find my average speed was... 62.5 mph.

    There have been occasions that I cursed the governor (we now have them mandated on our trucks, company or O/O), but those occasions were mostly of my making; piddling contests with some other muchacho in a governed truck, or some clown in a Toyota out to prove something. In a direct physical battle, both of you will lose. Back off, wait a few moments, they get bored and move on. They won't bugger off, drop a dime on them. It's not rocket science, folks, any more than speed limits and weight limits.

    To paraphrase an old fighter pilot, "You can lie to your wife, you can lie to your girl, you can lie to your friends, but if you lie to your truck: it WILL kill you." All the claims and excuses for flying down the road in 50 odd tons of steel and plastic won't mean diddly when you run face first into the laws of physics. And my apologies if i offend you higher mile drivers, but i've seen some real steamers dropped in here regarding excuses to 'fly'.

    It counts even more when it's your truck, your fuel, your driving record (or it should). Better economy, less wear, less freight damage, less stress (most times). Even if it's not your equipment, it's still your bread and butter while you're operating it; why beat it to death?

    Untill we stop believing our own B.S., governors and EOBRs will become more and more commonplace. Thank the cowboys.

    and sorry about the rant
     
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  11. Jb17

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    Because not everybody can be a super trucker, I mean come on what would you guys do to feel good about your self if you couldn't pass all the company drivers going down the interstate. Your ignorance shines threw with the question. There is a lot of things to consider when choosing a company to work for, some are looking at home time, some miles, others equipment, pay. So take that, then take the number of companies who don't govern there truck, I would, and have went with a company that pays well and has good equipment over one that has a truck that is not governed and ragged out, because when your broke down you are doing zero mph.

    The other way is to become a owner operator, and really the only reason most guys become owner operators is so they can say they are owner operators, you know not much money in it. Easy to see most are making $.090/$0.97 per mile, not to hard to do the math and figure out that's not a good deal, but you get to call guys steering wheel holders what ever that's worth to you. How ignorant is that statement anyway, when you really think about it a company driver, when talking about the driving aspect of the job has to do everything a owner operator does, shift, back, change lanes, fuel, make sure the truck is legal. And work for the same companies making the same amount of money with out the hassle, and his wife don't have to send in the truck payments and insurance, fuel taxes Etc.

    To be honest I think you are just a troll any way. Let's get the name of the company paying you $0.47 per mile in a ungoverned truck with all of your two years experience.
     
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