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Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by iamdot, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Screw it i'll join in too. It actually doesn't do anything until next summer. Let's not worry about what will be, lets keep the focus on what is. You're employer should probably give you an off duty pc card/letter allowing you to be relieved or responsibility and crap like that. Feel free to use the sleeper whenever the hell you want, just make sure you're actually in the sleeper. Let's say you're at a hotel all night, you're not in the sleeper due to the fact that the sleeper is still physically attached to the truck, so log it off duty. Let's say you're in the sleeper and playing video games for 8 consecutive hours. Congratulations you just met the criteria for your split, on the other hand you're an idiot and will probably be involved in an accident.


    Did that clear things up? Probably not, oh well.
     
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  3. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    Made sense to me..........:biggrin_25517:
     
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  4. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Other than you expanding the definition of "resting" to include video games, it looked good to me.

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  5. not4hire

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    The only criteria for logging S/B is that the driver is physically in the sleeper. That is it. Nothing else matters.

    The criteria for logging off-duty is not defined by what it is, but rather, what it isn't. It isn't S/B and it isn't driving and it isn't on-duty. Therefore it can only be off duty.

    What a driver is doing during either S/B or off-duty time is somewhat irrelevant so long as they are "fit" to drive and/or be on-duty.

    Nebulous concepts such as what is the definition of resting are irrelevant.
     
  6. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Of course one as to be physically in the S/B to log it but the regs specifically state "resting", so yes something else does matter.

    § 395.8 (h)(2) Sleeper berth. A continuous line shall be drawn between the appropriate time markers to record the period(s) of time off duty resting in a sleeper berth, as defined in §395.2. (If a non-sleeper berth operation, sleeper berth need not be shown on the grid.)

    395.1 also references periods of "rest" in the S/B.

    Is his in response to something I stated?

    What one does when he is off duty (Or on duty for that matter) is not required to be disclosed, but the Regs say one has to be resting in the S/B. So what is resting in relation to the S/B?

    As long as the regs state that to log S/B you are "off duty resting in a sleeper berth" the definition can be called in to question. Is watching TV resting? Is playing with one of the professional women resting?


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  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    That depends on how vigorously you are playing.
     
  8. dibstr

    dibstr Road Train Member

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    Certainly, and it can be relaxing, causing one to rest.

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  9. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    It might be wise to double check what your insurance covers before playing.
     
  10. Kamash2006

    Kamash2006 Bobtail Member

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    I got 3 level III inspections in 4 days driving from CA to FL and all were okay and no violations. Can a state trooper from one state tell if I had been inspected in another state recently?
     
  11. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    Not really, no.

    There is a way that your previous inspections can be looked up, but that is not always "up to date." Some officers/agencies do not upload inspections daily. They may upload their inspections once per week only. In that case, the most recent inspection in the system would be one week old.

    The best way to inform a trooper you have been inspected recently is to kindly tell him, and show him a copy of the inspection you just received. It may not make a difference if your carrier has a high safety rating. High safety rating numbers will get you inspected often, and they should. Numbers of clean inspections is the only way to get a rating to come down.
     
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