Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Well thank you for allowing the industry to fall down the mountain side. You driver outta be awfully proud of yourself.

 

Isn't it your responsibility to take pride in being a professional driver and standing up for your rights? Giving up control in your truck and allowing invasion of privacy isn't being responsible. You seem to like to chime in here but like you stated your not on E-logs so why are you pushing the issue? If you think every driver needs to bend over then I think its time you bow out of the profession.

 

The ones pushing it down the mountainside are the ones that can't understand it is a business, not an "Outlaw" lifesytle, that never existed, except in fantasy.

 

I am willing to go out on a limb here and state I get better rest on my paper logs than any driver on E-logs. How does this make me an "Outlaw"? If drivers won't stand up for the industry in which they work or live then just how far are you willing to let it fall? You must be one that thinks we United States of America shouldn't have a right to have guns. Like you said since you live in the real world you are more than okay allowing others to make the rules and you will just sit back and allow and follow them. What I am asking is how far are you willing to allow it to fall? Just because running E-logs and EOBRS won't hurt you and your operation doesn't mean to hell with everyone else.

Glad you admit that when you needed to cheat it was okay but now that you don't need to cheat it is so horrible.

 

yes, i believe this to be the case, someone can correct me if i am wrong

larger companies have less professional drivers, thus to avoid liability, they are always up-to-date on the latest laws (mostly because they have the ATA pushing these laws, like this elog nonsense)

whereas a small outfit, the owner is not really worried or had not previously been worried, because if it aint broke, dont fix it, they were not aware of the political shenanigans taking place, they didnt have accidents, occasionally someone got a ticket, it was paid and that was it

but today, you get a ticket, it stays in the clouds forever, along with court fees and the likes

look at the hours of service, who would have thought the 5 & 5 was a bad thing, no one but some politicians, so they pass the 11/14, and now that isnt good enough, they want to make it an 8 hr day and cut out 2 34hr restarts (like that really makes a difference)

so yes, the larger companies do pay more attention, most likely because their drivers are doing the most damage

look at the guys touting elogs here, how many are owner operators or even working for a small company vs the ones who are working for these larger carriers telling us how we better get with the program or get left behind and declared outlaws

i have even seen it said, if everyone doesnt do elogs, they are cheating, .............well, no one told you to accept it in the first place, that was YOUR choice, not ours. You happened to believe the "by 2012 everyone will be doing elogs", well God bless OOIDA, that hasnt happened yet and it looks like it is still a long way off

the mega carriers placed a huge bet on it being the law and now they are losing, so they removed the speed limitations on some trucks to make up the difference

this is a fight and it oughta be, but sadly many drivers are leading their own demise

 

It used to be acceptable to have an outhouse, in your backyard, in town, also. Times change! Adapt or be left behind.

 

Guess my town hasn't adapted yet. We still have our outhouses in the backyard. Times don't change, People change. Its your choice to bend over but you can't force others to follow in your footsteps.

 

You have got this right. Any driver that stands for the E-logs and EOBRS are leading their own demise. Agree Agree

 

Again, being ignorant of the regulations you are supposed to be following is a poor excuse. If it aint broke don't fix it? Sweet, let's never ever change anything again. Progress? Screw it, things aint broke. The technology is here for eLogs, it works for my company. On paper we'd be one step closer to being out of business, not because we don't have customers and nice equipment....but because too many drivers weren't following the hours of service. Were they ignorant of the regulations? Probably, but after educating them multiple times it was still the same drivers that violated. Hmmm, they were "old school" truckers that new how to drive. I've heard the same arguments from them that I'm hearing from you. Most all of them said they were going to quit...less than 10% did. Those that stuck it out are making more money, and are better rested today than they were a year ago....on paper.

Are eLogs right for everyone? No. Are they bad, and/or unsafe? No. They don't stop your from violating, so all this talk about I'm not stopping 30 miles from home stuff. Don't keep driving, what's the difference between a false log and a violation? Other than it's easier to prove the intent on your false log.

 

On one hand you admit to "hating" E-logs but yet you keep preaching them upon us. I guess I am just getting confused?