Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    since the changes of 2006, nothing has changed to warrant these new changes
     
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  3. Rocks

    Rocks Road Train Member

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    With elog, I need a (at least) 70mph truck.... and I hate the stress of having that clock showing how many mins I have left to "legally" drive.... :biggrin_25510: And CSA? Unless the severity point system is reviewed and some corrections made and drivers have a way to dispute their inspections and warnings in court, it's not fair... Ooops.... should I say something good about elog and CSA? Let me see... hmmmm... Will post something good to say when I find what...
     
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  4. 7-UP

    7-UP Light Load Member

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    Well we do know he dosen't live in Elogville AL. Population is one in that town per google earth.
     
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  5. Meltom

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    The cost of the technology has become more affordable and the people that are in control of the FMCSA want a change due to the stagnation of previous system. That is why CSA was concocted, or at least that's what I think. ELogs are just a matter of time, they're not better or worse, but one thing is for sure DOT don't like to read them.
     
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  6. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    so we are guinea pigs for new technology? men's livelihoods are being toyed with just because THEY CAN? 10hr sleep because a driver is a danger with only 9hrs?

    in ohio, 55mph was the speed limit and 65 was unsafe, until they changed the law

    so now 10hrs sleep is needed, until they tell us we need 12hrs, and many here will swear how much of a benefit it is and everyone else is an outlaw

    we have been digesting too much soy
     
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  7. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    your argument is against the regulation not the technology. Better technology is going to save "companies" money by employing less people to do the same amount (or more) work. I'm not for eLogs to be mandatory...or am I...but if it helps lower your cost and your getting the job done it's a good thing.
     
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  8. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    They are the wrong "fix" for the problem. They aren't any safer nor make a driver more compliant so they are the wrong "fix" for the HOS problems we have. I need to be in charge and the way I would handle the problem would "fix" this very fast and allow the drivers that are out here for good reasons to prosper and make good money. My punishment would thin the herd and teach company's to stop their crap. The only way to show you mean business is to make them pay with either losing CDL or making a company pay $100,000 fine per offense. How hard would this be to do? Not very is the answer.
     
  9. Cowpie1

    Cowpie1 Road Train Member

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    Why is that? I use Elog, have a 135 mph truck, and usually operate 62-65 mph. What operation are you doing that demands needing a 70 mph truck? Cattle? I have found if loads are planned properly, the need to race around to get it delivered goes away. I base all runs on an average speed of 50-55 before the load even gets on the truck, and delivery time is adjusted if shipper delays. I determine if the load can be done and no dispatch, or customer will determine the time it takes to do it. Guess that is why Elogs did not have a negative effect on my operation. And once folks learn to plan their loads properly, Elogs would be less of a problem as well. Elogs, if finally mandated, will either force folks to manage their loads better or die a slow death. Elogs can actually make an operation more efficient.

    I am confused. People who are so against Elogs claim they want to be in charge, but they can't even be "in charge" enough to schedule a run in a realistic way that they do not have to beat up equipment, increase fuel costs, etc to get it done. They don't want an Elog to dictate when they drive, but they have no problem with a dispatch or customer telling them when to drive. If one wants to run faster just to get a load off and be able to get another one on, that is one thing. If one runs faster to meet deadlines, no excuse.

    The complaint that Elogs will not make things safer was never an issue. Not sure why it keeps being brought up. It has only to do with compliance with HOS. No regulation or device can make anyone "safer".
     
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  10. texan007

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    More regulations do nothing......nothing .......people who break rules WILL ALWAYS DO SO.....it's in their DNA!

    This is alk a big joke!

    Take the red pill or the blue?!?!?!?!
     
  11. EZX1100

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    you are in essence, enslaving a man to the truck

    if the entire 168 hrs a week you are out, you are working and getting paid for every moment, then yes, you need to properly plan every minute to maximize profit and reduce risk and loss

    however, we are humans, not robots out here, some days you feel better driving 6 hours other days, you feel better driving the full 11, some days you want to relax, other days you want to drive hard

    you may even want to go fishing and hunting enroute, but if you are chained to the truck, you no longer enjoy driving but it becomes a chore

    i am not understanding why a safety man feels obligated to tell drivers how to do their job, safety is not in a book, and it is not dictating strict rules to people

    safety says drive 55mph because thats the speed limit, but being safe means driving with the flow of traffic
    or as i was told recently, knowing a tomato is a fruit is knowledge (safety department), knowing you dont put it in a fruit salad is wisdom (driver's reality)

    a safety department makes sure drivers are aware of the dangers and bad habits they can develop and outlines parameters to help the driver, the public and the company stay out of danger

    safety does not micromanage a driver, and then use the law and a computer to do so

    you are forcing a concrete abstract into a fluid world, it will never work like that
     
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