Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

You make good points in discussions so don't take this as I am arguing with you. What does roll stability have to do with HOS? I can see that EOBRS might help a company that has alot of trucks and a bunch of different drivers but what about smaller guys(under 10 trucks) for example. Should these smaller guys be forced to pay for EOBRS when it really won't benefit thier operation? Especially since they don't enforce HOS compliance any more than paper. I am just wondering what others think. Again thanks for a good discussion on a costly unhelpful pre-mandate.

 

It has nothing to do with HOS, it's more about safety and prevention. It helps to analyze behaviors and deliver individualized safety messages. I am fully against an industry wide mandate, it serves no purpose. If everyone was on eLogs people would just cheat their eLogs, or drive in violation. They don't stop you from doing anything, they just record it for you. We changed our approach to tracking violations and now create a separate spreadsheet that we can use to track violations. This helps us to determine who need an intervention, and who may have just had a violation. It really does help take any personal feelings out of it. With examining the data I can't punish driver "a" because I don't like him, and I can't give preferential treatment to driver "b" because he's so nice. It's based on factual information. I'm loving it.

 

DOT requires a paper log to be in the truck if the e-log doesn't work. That info has to be checked by safety and entered into the e-log system ASAP.

 

EOBR and E-logs are two different things. E-logs are being pushed by the DOT to record HOS. EOBRs record truck perimeters and have been in trucks for a long time Schneider, Werner, Swift, JB Hunt, US Xpress, and any other company using Qualcomm and Peoplenet like products.

 

seems like FMCSA is allowing dangerous, unsafe drivers on the road

 

csa is a crock of bs.Ive been driving for 12 years.Never had a accident but according to csa Im a bad driver.I hit a deer and get 38 points.Is that what makes me a bad driver?DOT during inspections cant find anything wrong so they make up stuff like bubbles on a pitman arm.No way I could make that up.Only in California.I do not support anything that the government tries to force the industry to dutlaw truckers? because some drivers refuse to bow down to DOT that makes them criminals.Wakeup! if the government can manipulate drivers whats going to stop them from making up more stuff on the working class

 

Hey now, we all know as long as they approve of it then its okay. When it helps them and not just ourselves then its okay. If they think its okay for a 15 day period to help relief then its okay for year round and these regs are garbage. Goes to show its not about safety at all.

 

So you're against exemptions? Should we get rid of split sleepers, and adverse conditions, and ag exemptions as well?

 

I will answer that with another question. So you are saying that one minute you are gung-ho on calling guys for running over their 11 or 70 or even if they speed or use their brakes suddenly or excessivly but if something causes issues and needs trucks and truck drivers then its okay for the same drivers to violate. Why is it that any other day these same drivers would be called unsafe, outlaw and even dangerous for violating these examples but yet when its to help haul stuff for relief then its okay. EITHER ITS UNSAFE AND DANGEROUS OR ITS NOT. Which is it? All I am stating is the regulations can't go both ways. Just goes to prove that truckers aren't as unsafe as they make it seem.

 

It's not all or none, in fact that's not even how we enforce it at my company. We don't take "relief" loads often, and when we do we still follow the HOS. We don't actually call anyone out (route them in for face to face) unless they've established a pattern of unsafe behavior and continue on their path of "unacceptable" behavior. So it's not an all or none thing, it's a is this actually a problem, or is there a real world explanation for what just happened. An exemption from the HOS would be one of these real world explanations.