CSA question

If your leased as an o/o to a company it will have little affect. as far as O/O with your own authority, being hit 1 time should not affect you at all. Points will be assest for the violation, I still haven't figured out how they do the calculations. No brokers will not avoid you. DO NOT GO TO AN INSPECTION STATION AND ASK TO BE INSPECTED!!!!! From what I understand about the point process is this, Points are assest for each violation, which are different amounts depending on the severity of the violation. Now the first year the points are tripled, second there double, third there single, and the beginning of the fourth year, from the aniversary of the date of the violation, points are dropped. I wouldn't worry unless you continue to get more violations Or you get put on notice by them. That you will recieve in the mail. Good Luck

 

First of all throw the word "points" out. It doesn't exist.

Second brokers do not check driver scores. Nobody can except for law enforcement.

Are you now a single operator with your own US dot? Did this violation occur under that US dot?

Here's the methodology they use : http://ai.fmcsa.dot.gov/sms/HelpFiles/SMSMethodology.pdf

Clean inspections do bring down the fatigue driving BASIC. They will not do percentile rankings because you need 3 "relevant inspections", but they will calculate a score.

 

Unless something changed that I'm not aware of there is a point process. The safety office with the company I'm leased to handed out brochures that had basic violations and the points that would be accessed. I will get that information and post it.

 

Show me where it says "points" in the methodology. What it does say is "severity weight" and "time weight". The word points makes it seem like you just keep adding up points, but that's not the way the system works at all.

 

The more inspections you get the bigger the pool your in. My maintenance was at 82% on my next inspection it put me in the over 10 pool and dropped mine to 52%. I have one ticket in driver fatigue for parking on a off ramp and it still shows 0% so not every ticket will hurt you.

I have had a few brokers tell me that I looked good besides maintenance but I'm still under the 80% threshold and have only had one broker refuse me a load I was pissed. I started looking at other carriers around me and I'll say I have a better track record than 90% of the company's I looked up next time your at the truck stop start looking up others numbers it will blow your mind!!!

 

This is incorrect info.... Points are tripled for 6 months, doubled for 6 months, singled for a year. and then fall off after two years from date of violation.

 

It is incorrect the information handed to us is 2 years old and has been revamped. I'm sorry, my mistake. As far as brokers, Last issue trucker news has the CEO of CH Robinson discusing the third party liabilities that would be brought on them if they continue to hire on companies with high CSA scores or have been put on notice. I happen to know Director of transportation with one of the largest pharmacuetical companies in the US personaly, yes he can get a CSA score on anyone who transports their freight. Actually it's done automatically through a company they have contracted too. He will instantly be informed if anyone of the carriers they deal with are put on notice. They don't want the liability issue.

 

Points stay with the company for 1 yr and the driver for 3 yrs... If the violation is 8 points then it multiples by 3 = 24 points.
You lose 8 points each yr until your back to zero. Some major shippers do check on this and others don't. Your safety rating is based against other operators like you, so if you get 5 more inspection and your clean, then your safety rating becomes better.

In other words, you as a operator have x amount of points for the next 3 yrs... Your safety rating is a second issue which is based on the number of inspections compared to other 1 truck operations.

As far as the repercussions... It will take more then one OOS, but I do personally know someone that lost his main customer because of his poor safety rating. So don't you believe any one that says different... I would lose sleep over it, but you do want to keep your nose clean as best as possible. Also keep in mind that "WARNINGS" count the same as actual violations.