Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. MSheets

    MSheets Light Load Member

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    Where in the regs does it say that? You can even show line one at a shipper I can even show line 5 at a shipper/receiver.
     
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  3. MSheets

    MSheets Light Load Member

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    That's how you can guarantee they will have you loaded. As soon as you doze off someone will be beating on your door telling you your ready.
     
  4. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    § 395.2Definitions.
    On-duty time means all time from the time a driver begins to work or is required to be in readiness to work until the time the driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work. On-duty time shall include:(
    1) All time at a plant, terminal, facility, or other property of a motor carrier or shipper, or on any public property, waiting to be dispatched, unless the driver has been relieved from duty by the motor carrier;
    (2) All time inspecting, servicing, or conditioning any commercial motor vehicle at any time;
    (3) All driving time as defined in the term driving time;
    (4) All time in or on a commercial motor vehicle, other than:(
    i) Time spent resting in or on a parked vehicle, except as otherwise provided in §397.5 of this subchapter;
    (ii) Time spent resting in a sleeper berth;
    or(iii) Up to 2 hours riding in the passenger seat of a property-carrying vehicle moving on the highway immediately before or after a period of at least 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth;
    (5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded;
    (6) All time repairing, obtaining assistance, or remaining in attendance upon a disabled commercial motor vehicle;
    (7) All time spent providing a breath sample or urine specimen, including travel time to and from the collection site, to comply with the random, reasonable suspicion, post-crash, or follow-up testing required by part 382 of this subchapter when directed by a motor carrier;
    (8) Performing any other work in the capacity, employ, or service of, a motor carrier; and
    (9) Performing any compensated work for a person who is not a motor carrier.
     
  5. MSheets

    MSheets Light Load Member

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    So a driver gets to a plant 15 minutes on-duty to check in and get in the door and just encase does a post trip. Then goes into the sleeper for 2 hours while they unload. They knock on the door your unloaded. OK says driver. Is it OK if I park in the lot I'm hungry I'm going inside and get something to eat. Sure says the worker. Driver parks truck in safe and secure spot then logs off-duty for 1 hour while he and the other drivers eat lunch and talk trash. Driver calls dispatch they say he will be picking up there. Driver checks load will pick up early next morning so he uses PC to go to Wally-World for 2 hours then comes back to plant and shows sleeper berth for 5 hours when they come knocking on his door load is ready.
     
  6. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    probably is, depends on company policy and Ethan.
     
  7. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    freddie kruger are we?

    not too far off, this elog thing reminds me of invasion of the body snatchers

    everytime i turn around, another company is on elogs
     
  8. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    I was thinking more like


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  9. volvodriver01

    volvodriver01 Road Train Member

    Is it just me or are there some E-log guys on here that are out of compliance with HOS? Haha :biggrin_2559: I know I know we all are but I thought it was funny..
     
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  10. EZX1100

    EZX1100 Road Train Member

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    its about covering the bosses rear

    too many drivers didnt know how log the new way, so they were piling up violations, so the govt came up with elogs and the sheeple are eating it up

    mind you, if the govt hadnt messed with the old rules, things would be simpler and less violations, but that would be too much like right
     
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  11. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    You always follow company policy which might be stricter but....


    The question is one released from all responsibility? If your employer allows you to sleep than I would say you are because who can be held responsible for stuff when they are cutting zzzz's. The way it usually plays out is you are woke back up and at that point you are back to responsibility.


    My last employer wanted us to maximize our time and had their own log compliance dept. They never said a word about SB at a customer nor did the auditors. Sometimes you might be on a dock several hours which takes you past your 14. Those cases we would sleep on the property or finish the break outside the gate if you could.
     
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