logbook recap

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Louisvilleguy, Nov 27, 2012.

  1. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    Post the regulation and code that you got wrote up for, or it didn't happen.
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Good point. I was going to add that perhaps what they were getting cited for was driving while over on their 70 and it was becoming apparent guilty drivers had a common habit of NOT doing proper recaps, running or daily.
     
  4. Scalemaster

    Scalemaster Heavy Load Member

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    395.8 spells out the items REQUIRED to be included and filled out on every log sheet.

    (d) The following information must be included on the form in addition to the grid:
    (1) Date;
    (2) Total miles driving today;
    (3) Truck or tractor and trailer number;
    (4) Name of carrier;
    (5) Driver's signature/certification;
    (6) 24-hour period starting time (e.g. midnight, 9:00 a.m., noon, 3:00 p.m.);
    (7) Main office address;
    (8) Remarks;
    (9) Name of co-driver;
    (10) Total hours (far right edge of grid);
    (11) Shipping document number(s), or name of shipper and commodity;

    A couple of things that typically are printed on log sheets but are NOT required by regulation are the "From" and "To" at the bottom and the recap.

    There are many different formats and many different printers of log pages. Some carriers make their own version. The ONLY items required by the DOT are the ones required by regulation.
     
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  5. 7-UP

    7-UP Light Load Member

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    The only recap (aka alligator) I ever worried about was the one in the middle of the road.

    You know, the ones that get your Texas bumper, chicken lights, license plate brackets and fuel lines.
     
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  6. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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  7. Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    take your pick
     
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  8. CondoCruiser

    CondoCruiser The Legend

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    Recaps are only a convenience to keep track of your own hours. Drivers do make mistakes on them. Any audit and the leo will ignore a recap and add your hours up page by page if he suspects something.

    My last company logs had a recap at the front of the logbook and an individual one on each page which most ignored. I wasn't keeping two recaps and if you keep a rolling recap you need all the numbers in front of you. Page by page recaps are for the birds. There are many entries on certain logs that are not necessary like a co-driver and co-driver miles. If you ever use scannable logs your company wants no value entries left blank.

    If what the OP says is true, KY is pulling a fast one. I would tell them my hours are there on them seven pages. Add them up. They can't hold you liable for what happens in other states if it's not federal law. They can be stricter on their own laws if they want. Filling your recap out 3 states away the day before is not one of them.

    Like others said they have to attach a regulation number to a violation. What is it?

    I've had 3 good inspections in KY in the last 5 years with a blank page by page recap. I can't even recall anyone looking at my recap on the front of the book. If they are violating recaps, Ooida will challenge them.



    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=Y

    http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8
     
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  9. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    My company's logs have an easy recap. 7 lines for the past 7 days. Then the running total, then the line for today's available hours (70 minus running total) Then today's hours (day "8"). Makes the recap a lot easier than the traditional 3 column monthly recap.
     
  10. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    My company has elogs, it even does the math for you
     
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  11. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    If you seldom approach the 70 in 8 days, it's just more busywork. Never got the recap questioned whether I filled it out or not. Much more likely to be questioned on a split log, even if you are correct on it, by people who should know better.
     
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