Where to go after graduating from a school

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by JakeOrion, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. JakeOrion

    JakeOrion Bobtail Member

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    I know this question has been asked many, MANY times, (my apologies) but I would like new and/or updated information on the current market for new graduates from a community college truck driving school.

    A bit of background information about myself before I move on. I'm a 30 year old resident of San Diego, CA looking for a new career change. I was previously a defense contractor for the US Navy until the defense cuts kicked in and I'm sure you know the rest of the story. This happened back in May of 2010. Since then, I have been (unsuccessfully) been looking for an office job and I'm virtually stalled out. I'm tired of sending resumes for no responses in return. So, I decided on a career change and have been investing myself on the prospect of becoming a driver. I understand the commitment of being one (fortunately I'm single) and I do enjoy driving, as my Jeep can attest to that for traveling to my distant (6 hours+) off-road excursions.

    I am willing to move anywhere in the nation if required. I have no problems moving out of CA, and have no problem even living in a truck if required. My preference is to start as an OTR dry van driver, but I have no qualms with being a reefer, flatbed, etc. driver as well. (I would prefer dry van, as I wish to build up experience before moving on to other loads.) I also have an updated passport, no felonies, super clean driving record, and looking to go after a TWIC card once I get hired on with a company that requires it. (Any more info regarding TWIC would be greatly appreciated.)

    For school, I'll be attending Amarillo College Truck Driving Academy located in Amarillo, TX. My reasons of wanting to attend this school is primarily price (just shy of $3000), but also 200 total hours of 5 courses over 5 weeks which can also include hazmat. The courses are divided up as so: Defensive Driving - Professional Truck Operator (16 hours), Commercial Drivers License Written Skills (48 hours), Commercial Drivers License Driving Skills (48 hours), Advanced Driving Skills I and II (40 hours for I and 48 hours for II). From what I have gathered so far, on paper for price to hours of training, this is one of the better schools I have come across. I also have relatives living in Pampa, TX and I was planning to live with them as I attended the academy. Of course, I have discussed my plans with them already and they are completely fine with it, and understand my situation.

    If I wish to attend a truck school here in CA, my quoted prices have been anywhere from $6000 to as high as $8000 for 150 to 186 hours. Not only do I not have that kind of money, but the reviews for the schools around southern California have mostly been negative. Also compounded to the negativity of the schools is virtually every representative I have spoken to seemed more interested in getting my money or getting off the phone with me as quickly as possible, giving direct answers rather than going off into detail about the courses and school.

    With all that said, on to my dilemmas. I have been rigorously digging through threads on which companies to start out with. I already know CR England and CRST are already scratched off the list, as I have yet to find a positive posts about these companies. Werner is quickly going to that list as well, and Schneider is beginning to sound sketchy with the new sensors they put on their trucks for their idling concerns (I understand the principle, but shutting off in the middle of traffic sounds unsafe at best.) Swift is regarded as one of the bottom dwellers, Knight seems to be a mixed bag, but Maverick seems to be reputable. A lot of positive comments from that company.

    I have a general idea where to go, but I would like to have additional inputs. I'll be honest; I hate idling if I can avoid it, so a list of companies that have APUs (generators) for new drivers are a plus for me. I know every company will have its pros and cons, but I have a good attitude and take things in stride.

    Appreciate the help!
     
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  3. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Yep. All major carriers who hire/mentor new CDL holders are going to have plenty of negative reporting, most of it warranted, some of it not. Perhaps add Roehl and TMC ... maybe Stevens or Prime.

    Point is, people tend to express negative experiences far more than positive experiences and you'll probably need to focus on how important family time may or may not be for you, and who has what fleets, where. Try and look past the mentoring/training phase and is it a company you could suffer through a year with keeping in mind your home time needs? Those like Schneider have a LOT of different opportunities from start to end, different fleets, van/tank, regional/dedicated/intermodal/team, etc, while many of the others have little room for change.

    Whatever you do, don't consider "lease purchase" possibilities at this stage. Not until you've made it as a company driver for a year, and you really like the lifestyle. Once you get a year of good, dependable, safe operation behind you, your opportunities will begin to really open up considerably, 2 years, and you can virtually work wherever you want.
     
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  4. boxxxtrucker

    boxxxtrucker Light Load Member

    You're smart to cross off CRST and CRE. But think twice about Swift. As far as training companies are concerned, they're probably the lesser of all the evils. No matter where you go, you'll have to start OTR with a less than stellar company. Or you could do like I did, pound the pavement and find an LTL company. The problem is, you [probably] won't find a GOOD LTL company without experience (the one I work for is sub par at best and I was on a six month waiting list). No way around it, you've got to work your way up from the bottom...
     
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  5. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Generally, the pay is this :
    #1 - Tanker/hazmat
    #2 - Refrigerated
    #3 - Flatbed
    #4 - Dryvan

    Texas is a good state to live; there are 9 states with no personal income tax. Check the hiring areas of the companies you're interested in; should be on their websites. Looks like you're taking a very sensible approach to this new career. Maverick has flatbed & refrigerated. Crete Carrier has flatbed, dryvan & refrigerated. A good CDL school will open doors; such as some companies website will have 6 mos. experience required, but if you ask or apply, they will waive that requirement if you've attended a good school. Marten Transport is another quality company as is Melton Truck Lines. I don't recommend starting with dry van, when you will make more money with the others. Refrigerated companies haul dry van loads & refrigerated loads; where with dry van companies you're limited to only dry van loads. Easier to keep moving with refrigerated company.
     
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  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    I forgot to extend this thought out to say IMO, most of the new drivers who quit early and bad-mouth the carrier, seemed to have had unrealistic expectations going in, or didn't really understand the OTR job and demands. These unrealistic expectations and failed drivers have served to mess up the entire industry. Go in with realistic expectations (or at least understanding what you're REALLY getting into, in the beginning and long-term) and you may actually make it here
     
  7. JakeOrion

    JakeOrion Bobtail Member

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    Forgot to add this to the list, thanks for reminding me. I'm not a lease man, I prefer full ownership so I was thinking of saving money to put down for a brand new truck. Honestly though, I'm not worried about it at this time and will see what the situation is like about a year and a half down the road.

    I haven't crossed off Swift from my list, and I like the fact they have a large terminal in Phoenix, AZ. But your right; I have accepted the fact I have to work my way up through the ladder, and honestly, its acceptable to me. I know I'll have to deal with "crap" for the first couple years on the road. Heck, if any job was all roses and chocolates with great pay on the first day, well, chaos would ensue to be hired on.

    Not too concerned with pay to be honest. No, I really mean that. I have managed my finances where I owe very little debt, and literally have nothing to lose (except my Jeep, which is paid off.) But, I do thank you for the advice and that is excellent information regarding pay, of which will be extremely useful to me in the future.

    I'll begin looking into Marten Transport and Melton Truck Lines as well.

    Yeah, I noticed that too. As you can see, I've been doing my homework of what is involved to be a professional driver. Fortunately, I have no wife nor kids to worry about; just me, myself and I. As far as regarding family time...well, I'll just say my family is dysfunctional and leave it at that.

    Social whenever I can, but no problems of extended solitary periods either.
     
  8. boxxxtrucker

    boxxxtrucker Light Load Member

    People with prior driving career experience (straight trucks, buses etc) tend to be more successful in an OTR career than people who sat in an office 9-5 Monday through Friday. They also tend to be more knowledgeable. Because of this, recruiters will often target the 9-5ers, many of whom have been laid off, know nothing outside of their office gig, and desperately need a new source of income. This triggers a chain reaction of hire, quit, hire - most can't deal with the drastic change in lifestyle - and the rest is history I guess
     
  9. JakeOrion

    JakeOrion Bobtail Member

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    Can't argue with that. It doesn't surprise me one bit that many can't get used to the new life style, thus high turnover rate. For myself, I grew tired working in an office. If I have to work in an office, I want it on wheels where the scenery changes daily. I've discovered I'm a more "outdoor" worker rather than a cubicle slave.
     
  10. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    Wife and kids have more to do with driving considerations than anything. If you have either, and want to maintain them, make your choices wisely. Just because you can handle it (or think you can), doesn't mean those at home are handling it well if you're gone many weekends or for weeks at a time. Maybe you can secure a "local gig" later ... maybe you can't.
     
  11. D33RHUNT3R

    D33RHUNT3R Medium Load Member

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    Heres another for your list of companies .. Conway TL... this is the company at the top of my list when we get ready..
     
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