clutch brake troubles

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  1. earthmover

    earthmover Medium Load Member

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    i just had a clutch brake replaced in my truck 2mths ago and it worked ok, but now its like its not working at all.. I really think someone adjusted the linkage instead of the clutch and is causing me some problems.. is there a way to tell whats going on????you have to push the pedal to the floor just about to even get it to start to stop the clutch then it grinds really bad...I am working in sand now for the last mth and its a lot more work day to day then I am use to hauling 25/30 loads a day (dump truck) but use to 5/6....had a shop check the feel and free play of the clutch and they said its fine about 1/2 from the top.. the brake is whats killing me...its to the point that's at times it makes a crazy noise when you try to get it to stop the clutch ..most of the time I just catch it and slide it in gear before I stop but I do need it from time to time...any help or ideas of what to do.. thanks mike
     
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  3. dodge24v

    dodge24v Light Load Member

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    really really easy work around. Always stop in gear..
     
  4. Gear head

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    The proper way to adjust is to get the gap between the throwout bearing and the clutch brake between 1/2 and 9/16 of an inch with the internal clutch adjustment. Then get an 1/8 between the throwout bearing and your release forks with the linkage. If it is a peterbuilt that should give you about 3 inches of freeplay in pedal. All other trucks about 1 1/2 inches of freeplay in pedal. If it still doesnt stop the trans. Look for new clutch.
     
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  5. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    Take the insp cover off and measure gap between the release bearing and clutch brake, should be 1/2". You can use a 5/16" bolt with 1/2" head to measure.

    If they adjusted the linkage to close the gap on the clutch brake the clutch itself will have a very high on the pedal release/engage point.
     
  6. Gear head

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    You may also want to check to see if the clutch brake may of came off headshaft. The two peice brakes will do this sometimes.
     
  7. bubbanbrenda

    bubbanbrenda Road Train Member

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    is it a high mile pete?
     
  8. earthmover

    earthmover Medium Load Member

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    1997 freightliner cummins m11 rto14709mll....truck was fine before ...had a clutch in it about 4yrs ago..really need to find the problem...in another state working..
     
  9. CatPowerC15

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    You adjust the brake with the linkage FIRST, then adjust the pressure plate to achieve the proper free play. I was told this is wrong, but after 20+ years, it's always worked for me.
     
  10. bender

    bender Road Train Member

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    That is doing it backwards, and there are many doing it this way, but it's not right. Gearhead stated the correct procedure by the book for best results.
     
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  11. CatPowerC15

    CatPowerC15 Medium Load Member

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    If you set the free travel first, and the brake won't squeeze properly you say then adjust the linkage. When you adjust the linkage it changes the free travel. It's not wrong, it's just another proper way of doing it. Like stated, worked for me 20+ years without a single problem. Never have to replace brakes between clutches. Two years between adjustments.....never mind, not beating this dead horse tonight.
     
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