Would you leave Landstar if they require you to get eobr?

What do you mean, have something to hide?

 

That is a crock of manure.

I don't want a baby sitter in the truck and I sure don't run double log books. I get perfect logs almost every month through the company we are leased on to. I've had a level 3 three times in the past six months and all were perfect.

I know company drivers who have EOBRs and there's no way I'd go to one of the salt plants within 45 miles of my house and set for a few hours to get loaded then have some device in my truck telling me I'm out of hours and can't drive home without violation. Or not drive from my Cargill to my house which is five minutes.

These EOBRs and HoS are put in my people that have no idea what it's like out on the road or how things really are.

Instead of focusing on hammering and hampering the driver, making life more difficult for us....why don't they start holding the shipper and receiver responsible for the BS they get away with? You drivers that cheer on the baby sitter in the truck, you obviously are lazy, IMO. Once you get EOBRs, your paperwork almost disappears. Plus you never push yourself. And I don't mean run illegal, I mean get the job done. You might have to color outside the lines a little bit once in while but that's the way it is. If you are a smart and responsible person, you don't need some machine telling you how to do your job.

For example, I was in MN the other day and a train was stopped, blocking traffic for 30 minutes. Some driver had EOBR and was saying he's just going to have to stop on side of road. And that's what he did....I ran 15 minutes over to get to safe parking. The train was out of my control. But that machine doesn't know that. But as soon as the drivers 14 was up, he pulled over. Didn't matter where he was....so how safe is this attitude? Parking on side of road that had a narrow shoulder? I don't think so.

 

That statement is about as arbitrary as the rule that makes such violations fall under fatigued driving to begin with.
It's like saying "We'd all be perfect if we just weren't so tired".
Just think... If we were all well rested, none of us would have any oversights in any area of our lives whatsoever!
Think about it. The rules give guidelines for drive time and on duty time. Your log clearly shows that you have ZERO violations in that area. How they came up with the idea that an oversight such as entering a trip number or signing your name on the log sheet falls under fatigued driving is beyond ridiculous.
Before too long they'll have all of you drivers hooked up to a device during your 10 hour break that verifies that you've had adequate REM sleep before you can drive the truck again.
Show me the data that indicates that the guy who failed to dot his "i" or cross his "t" is at a higher risk for being a risk on the road.
~BridgettAnn

 

Yeah Bridgette it's true there are already test companies out there with cameras that watch the driver. I mean really where does this end? Mandatory cameras watching all drivers is the next logical step.

 

No need for double log books, that's what loose leaf is for.. I'm sittin at domino sugar in Crockett, ca right now. I got here last night for a 10am appt. I checked in at 9:45, and I'm waiting, looks like its gonna be a while. If I had an eobr, I'd be screwed, I'm kicked back in the sleeper waiting on the guard to call me. WHY should I log that so it starts my 14 hrs????

 

Double log books, loose leaf, what ever. This was the point that was being made. By letter of the law (not arguing validity of law) you are falsifying your logs.

Not making a moral judgement on this but this is what proponents of EOBRs are using to justify this. Few drivers on paper logs would start their 14-hour in this situation.



OP, if you are making good money I would suck it up and stay put. If you are not making the money then this may be just the thing that you need to make the move. Wouldn't make it just on EOBR or not. It is going to happen sooner than later.

 

Well I got 2 shiny new CVSA stickers at the Donner Pass scales here in CA last night, and he looked mighty hard at my loose leaf logs, everything in it was perfect. He was playing a makeshift game of jeopardy with me asking me questions about my last 8 days, trying to catch me doing something I wasn't.

 

That's the key. As others have pointed out he has been at Landstar long enough that he SHOULD have established some very good contacts there. I would not just up and leave over EOBR if I were in his shoes. I would take a close look at the agents I worked with, what freight they have, and see if it did make sense to hang in there. Cause at some point we all know the EOBR's are coming for everyone. And 3 years from now if he leaves he may regret that at the point when they do. It won't be easy competing with others not under those constraints in the short term but longer term, is it really worth it to quit in the here and now???

 

Not with that and with the $75k broker bond coming next summer. Freight and Landstar and CHR is only going to get better as the small mom & pops go out. Better to have those established contacts now than to try and build them at a later date.