I'm REALLY Confused About Something

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by dvjordan, Jan 7, 2013.

  1. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    Well, to be honest, the main motivator was the increased income potential and, according to the dispatcher, that I can get enough loads for two rigs. However, when it comes down to brass tacks, there is no reason not to go with one rig in the beginning. It would certainly make things easier in the event of a complete implosion.
     
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  3. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    You're right especially given the other figures that have been thrown out for dispatching. The plan at this point would be to get going with his help, learn the LB's in the meantime and see what type of loads he picks up, and cut the cord as quickly as possible. As far as a factoring agency, I've experienced not being paid in the past and as you know it's not fun. However, perhaps there's a better way to do it, just not sure yet.
     
  4. Tuzla075

    Tuzla075 Light Load Member

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    Started in May as an O/O and doing pretty good, I guess I had a luck with 07 Volvo that I bought from Baskin, yes Baskin, no major repairs, all in all some 6500-7000 $ in maintenance for the past 6 months. I do not drive over 64mph, which it seems helps out!
    I do not take loads if less then 2$/mile, I do PA to Mass to PA to Mass then go home (IL), rest for a couple of days, and hit it again. It works ok for me, I do not have any debt, but truck and trailer payments!
     
  5. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    One thing you're forgetting is hiring good drivers. They don't just fall from heaven into your trucks. Most of the sad sacks you'll be limited to will end up costing you money if they don't steal and bankrupt you. The good ones have jobs with benefits. $25k is an ok cushion for one truck, sometimes I have as much as $40k in receivables out there with one but I don't factor. That was on the high end average is about $20k
     
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  6. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    I hadn't considered it. However, I would imagine it would be a major pain in the wazoo, unless anyone has had a different experience??
     
  7. sjmay

    sjmay Light Load Member

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    Who do you find paying $2 a mile out of the NE? What are you pulling?
     
  8. Oscar the KW

    Oscar the KW Going Tarpless

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    So you will only be providing bobtail insurance and insurance on any owned trailers? And running under his authority? If the answer to both of these questions is yes, then you need not worry about factoring, as he is required by law to pay you within 15 days (if I remember correctly) upon receiving a signed bill of lading. 15% could be a good deal, but like any percentage based leased it all depends on what the freight is booked for as to wether it is good or not. You need to ask him what the freight he is booking is on the low side, the high side, and what the overall average is.
     
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  9. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    Sounds like you're doing good, and I wish you the best of luck. Just curious; how many miles did your truck have at purchase? I was thinking about getting something around 500k. Unless I don't know what I'm talking about, anymore would make me a little nervous about losing my ### on repairs.
     
  10. dvjordan

    dvjordan Bobtail Member

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    A couple of people have warned me about drivers. I've started looking around, but am not quite sure how to go about getting someone right for the job. I'm not a cheap sob, and don't mind paying someone. Was thinking about starting them out at $0.39-0.42 (or somewhere in there) along with a per diem. If anyone has a better idea or experience, by all means let me know.
     
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  11. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    ...so he's got 2 trucks that he runs, plus he takes 15% from 3 others that he dispatches...and he grosses $900,000/year. How much fuel did his 2 trucks burn? How much did he spend on maintenance & repairs for those 2 trucks? How much did he pay in driver wages for those 2 trucks? Insurance? Truck notes? It all comes out of that gross dollar figure you quoted. How much does he have left over after he's paid all of the expenses?

    Now subtract the amount he's receiving from those three O/O's.....that 15% dispatching fee...because that money won't be available to you. How much is left over? Is it enough to cover the 15% you'll be paying him to dispatch your 2 trucks? How much...if anything....would you have left?

    That's what you need to figure out. Gross numbers don't mean a #### thing...you've got to figure out how much you'll have left after all of your bills are paid....the NET.
     
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