$20/hr minimum

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Anonymoususerreport, Jan 13, 2013.

  1. Anonymoususerreport

    Anonymoususerreport Bobtail Member

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    In today's day and age with all the regulations ( CSA2010 & driver self-certification ) knowbody should be driving a truck for less than $20 per hour.

    Here are the rates the way I see them-

    Class B $20/hr (w/hazmat $23/hr), or $0.50 a mile

    Class A $23/hr (w/hazmat $26/hr), or $0.60 a mile

    Union jobs add $5

    There is a huge trucking shortage !

    The factors are an aging population of older truckers ready to retire and nobody to replace them, CSA2010, and now driver self-certification. All these things are brewing in the background and they are going to take people out of the driving market..

    Check out how CSA point are calculated ( They are tracking you and the company ! )

    http://www.cb39.org/csa_driver_points_menu.html

    The funny thing is the companies fail to acknowledge these facts, and still trying to hold out for cheap labor, and for some OTR companies it's almost slave labor. They have money to buy $150-$200K trucks but they can't pay the drivers ? Ya, right..

    All of us need to start asking for more money, and refusing to drive unsafe equipment. See part of the issue is other people will work for less and drive a broken truck, but it's all starting to catch up to those driver and companies now.

    Type a company name into this and you will see what I'm talking about-

    http://www.whatiscsa.com/carrier_performance/
     
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  3. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    There is NO driver shortage. At this time, we have too many drivers and not enough freight. If you want to be paid hourly, then either find a local job or something else where you don't need to be held accountable for your productivity. Why should any company start inexperienced workers out at $20+/hour? This is an industry where workers can control, to an extent, their paychecks, based upon their productivity and how well they manage their time. If you want a raise, then drive a few extra miles. Spend a little less time on the computer or sitting at a truck stop. I don't see unions getting involved in otr. They are losing local members due to cutbacks at major ltl carriers. They can no longer afford the excessive pay and benefits that unions demand. Pay is also controlled, to some degree, by freight rates. Without major increased in rates, pay will not go up significantly. Drivers will also need to stay at a carrier for more than a few months to receive the higher pay. There are some who are earning $0.45-0.50/mile or more, but they are usually not pulling a box around and have several years experience and most likely have been with a carrier for several years. If you want a bigger paycheck, then hone your skills and find a niche where you can excel.
     
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  4. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    Driver shortage my butt!

    If there was truly a shortage then wages would sky rocket like the price of hay has and the price of oil does.

    If there was a shortage, warehouses wouldn't be able to close their door because the freight would be spilling out.

    If there truly was a shortage carriers wouldn't be dicking drivers around by making them wait @ docks and truck stops for freight.

    I could go on and on, there is NO driver shortage and never will be.
     
  5. snafu

    snafu Light Load Member

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    The shortage is.. good paying companies and drivers who have the balls to say no to working for cheap pricks.
     
  6. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    "Driver shortage" said the training industry who derives 80% of their profits driving poor, unsuspecting kids off to truck driving school. "Driver shortage" said the large trucking companies who make significant money from government incentives herding people in, training, and watching them run home 3 months later, just after the tax credit gets earned.

    There may be a lot of empty seats in a lot of wore out equipment that fell off the books years ago and should have been taken off the road permanently, but that my friends does not make a driver shortage.
     
  7. ShortBusKid

    ShortBusKid Heavy Load Member

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    This is true. There is no driver shortage and isn't likely to be one. Large carriers are having a hard time finding and keeping drivers because they don't treat them well and the pay is low but the "good" jobs have a waiting list. You're never going to have a shortage for any job that someone can train for in a few weeks.
     
  8. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    Can I use that line please>that's perfect!

    The big fleets suffer from "driver churn". Their HR department has a revolving door and they choose not to fix it. They know how to fix it, they just can't be bothered.

    Again, great line ShortBusKid!
     
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  9. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    But let's be honest. Let's say trucking companies [who hire new CDL holders] cut new CDL recruit hiring 75%. If they did, probably within about 3-4 months those companies would be seriously hurting to cover their own existing freight. However, that would force them to enact pay and other incentive packages and other perks to enhance the "driver lifestyle" there, to retain their current drivers before they became disillusioned and left, creating a company shortage (not an industry shortage). It's a convoluted problem, with one issue feeding another issue in an ongoing vicious cycle.
     
  10. STexan

    STexan Road Train Member

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    The $20 hour gets a driver to a point where a productive driver at a productive company on mileage pay would gross. My point is, if a driver is productive, and at a productive company, pay is not an issue so much. The fact there are dues to be paid, and not every company is operating near 100% productivity is not so much a problem that an hourly wage is going to solve. If you're always maxing out on your log hours, and/or you're at home virtually every weekend, by choice, then what's the problem? If not, then you only need to stick around long enough to be hirable at a more productive outfit.

    If you think you're going to be paid $20 hour for 10 hours/week as you sit waiting for a dispatch between loads, you're sorely mistaken.
     
  11. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    LOL>>>delusional
     
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