Cost & Repercussions of violation??

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by gigagirl, Jan 24, 2013.

  1. gigagirl

    gigagirl Bobtail Member

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    I am a high school student doing a research paper on a local problem. I am in need of some general info. from some of you experienced truckers. We have a local road which is restricted to through trucks due to the dangers for the curvy narrow road. Trucks still continue to try and use the road and what happens is (with the exception of the best of the best drivers - and luck with oncoming traffic) they cannot make the curves/turns and often end up in the dirt drainage ditches - STUCK!! Now the police have to come, close off the road to traffic for hours while a heavy tow truck is called in to haul the truck out of the ditch, afterwards the police will escort the truck out of the area. I would imagine the trucker is issued at least one ticket for violating the 'restricted' sign, and possibly other tickets for the incident. Please share with me what this whole incident may cost in tickets and towing and what the repercussions would be to your CDL license and job with the firm you work for.

    Another question - if you use a car GPS versus a truck GPS would you find the restriction for this road? Does it show as restricted on your truck GPS? Would you risk it? The road is Ruffin Mill Road in Chesterfield County, VA.

    Thanks in advance for any insight on this issue from a truckers perspective.

    Harrison
     
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  3. ralph

    ralph Road Train Member

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    Great question Harrison!

    Minimum wrecker bill will be $1000. And it will/could skyrocket from there.

    The least punitive ticket will be for "failure to obey traffic control device". Probably no more than a couple of hundred bucks BUT if the officer involved wants to he could use up a ticket book writing tickets.

    Is there a business on this road that trucks are trying to get to OR is it a short cut some where?
     
  4. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    It could costs thousands of dollars in damages to the truck and to the road, plus towing, plus other costs and fees with the police blocking the road to get a trucker out. It doesn't matter the GPS, sometimes a restriction just isn't picked up. If there is signage there saying trucks are restricted, that should be enough.
     
  5. windsmith

    windsmith Road Train Member

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    The only Ruffin Mill Rd. that I could find is in S. Chesterfield, VA. Looks to be about a mile long, is also known as SR-746, and is accessible from I-95. It appears to be an industrial park.

    Is it possible that there's another Ruffin Mill Rd. or another segment of the road in the area that is confusing drivers?

    http://goo.gl/maps/wBt70
     
  6. pokerhound67

    pokerhound67 Heavy Load Member

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    while ralphs answer on the wrecker bill may or may not be correct (as a newbie i was never trained and didnt bother to ask about chains. found myself on a closed interstate with a thousand other cars and trucks and ended up having to be towed up the hill...cost: $200), he certainly MAY be correct...wrecker could easily charge that much. the total cost for the incident you describe would depend a great deal on where you committed the infraction, and who the cop was that pulled up. could get away with a few hundred dollars and one ticket. could be many thousands of dollars and many tickets. more likely it would be the latter.

    car gps would most likely NOT indicate restrictions on the road you describe. truck gps MOST LIKELY would route the driver a different way, having the restrictions in its memory and not sending the driver over that road. the PROBLEM with the truck gps is they are never perfect. "gigo" is usually the problem. if no one programmed the gps with the info that that road is restricted, then it WILL route the driver that way. it happens. that is why a driver who relies solely on his/her gps, and doesnt bother to check the routing for low bridges and restrictions, is a darn fool. not saying he/she is completely stupid...most people do foolish things now and then (like not bothering to learn how to use chains for instance...and yes, the same day i was taught...finally swallowed my pride enough to ask another driver for instruction).
     
  7. gigagirl

    gigagirl Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for the input so far -

    Ruffin Mill Rd. does go thru an Industrial park with a Pilot Truck Stop at the beginning of the road. Once you are at the end of the Industrial area it then turns left onto the very winding, narrow, residential part of Ruffin Mill Rd. Truckers want to use it as a cut through from the truck stop (off I-95) up to Highway 10 and/or Interstate 295. It became officially restricted in 2009 and there are signs, but rather small and in my opinion placed where it is too late for the trucker who has already entered the road (on either end). VDOT has recently stepped up the policing efforts on that stretch of road and often sit on either end looking for trucks. I guess that got to be too much for them, so a few weeks ago VDOT place those big, portable message signs that light up and flash "Through Trucks Prohibited on Ruffin Mill Road". Don't know how long they will/can leave those signs there.
    Trucks getting stuck on that road was literally a weekly event and several incidents of school buses getting swiped and in one case forced off the road from oncoming trucks have happened.
     
  8. carrkool

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    I know that place well...yes the signs are placed in crappy way and when you make the turn and fianlly see them its to late to do anything. that road use to allow trucks i have run it and it was a nice cut over but tight sometimes. last time i was thru there my trucker gps did show it was a legal route so part of the issue could be lack of updates. as for why if someone knows its restricted. yea drivers will including me time to time. will try and cut through routes to save time and money its a gamble...lol
     
  9. formertaxidriver

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    This may help you on your research, young student!

    Three points on driving record:
    http://www.dmv.state.va.us/webdoc/citizen/drivers/points_3.asp[TABLE="width: 100%"]
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    46.2-804(A) Fail to obey highway marking $96
    http://www.pwcgov.org/government/courts/district/Pages/Traffic-Fines.aspx


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    Many companies will fire a driver for a bonehead move that requires a tow. Reality is, that a towing company can charge you whatever they please, as there is no set rates or standard.

    There are several places I can think of that have truck restrictions for whatever reason that law enforcement lay in wait. Hopefully that isn't happening in your town.
     
  10. gigagirl

    gigagirl Bobtail Member

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    carrkool and others...with that being said (taking a gamble), my paper has to focus and a solution and I am proposing a 'redlight' type camera to capture license plates of truckers who enter the road and higher fines for traveling on this road. A warning sign for the 'redlight' camera would have to be posted on the road. I realize there are a lot of logistics and legalities involved with this, but it is just a proposal. If you knew of the camera and higher fines would you still take the gamble???

    I am also proposing an informational posting inside the Pilot Truck Stop that spells out the true dangers of traveling that road. Right now, the through restriction sign is paired with a weight limit restriction (due to a small bridge) so I think a lot of truckers look at that and think that is why there is a through restriction and not really a big deal if they proceed (weight restriction long preceeded the through restriction). If there was some info/bulletin on the dangers of this road due to the curves and narrowness it may help a trucker plan ahead.
     
  11. gigagirl

    gigagirl Bobtail Member

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    Police started sitting at the beginning of the road recently because the problem was becoming so bad. The road is really dangerous for trucks and thus the cars and school buses that travel it. Honestly, it is not a cop trap situation, but a public safety issue and the time and resources that are taken up by VDOT and law enforcement with the trucks that get stuck on this road is horrible.
     
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