Full load, grades, no engine brake

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by J Man, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. J Man

    J Man Medium Load Member

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    So recently I've found myself having to drive a truck with no engine brake/retarder of any sort. Have to go over some mountains and the grades are about 7-10%. This is a highway and the grades are too long to just start out slow and climb back up through the gears. My problem is how do I keep this thing slowed down? I can come off the top of the hill doing about 5-7 mph but the stupid thing picks up so much speed that I can't hold it back without riding the brakes, even in that low gear, and soon I won't have any brakes left, or worse, I'll have a runaway. Advice?
     
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  3. Voltrucker

    Voltrucker Medium Load Member

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    Stab brake.
     
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  4. magoo68

    magoo68 Road Train Member

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    switch companies if they don't give a proper truck for mountains if that's where they run you till then run slow and stay alive is your only option also turn on engine fan if u have a manaul switch . be safe
     
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  5. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    What I do in that case is downshift to maybe 3rd or 4th, depending on the grade, then put slight pressure on the brakes and keep required pressure on until at the botton of the grade. Keeping pressure on stops oxygen from getting between the brake shoes and the drum; the brakes get hot but can't flame without oxygen. A couple of times the brake shoes flamed when I let off the brakes at bottom of grade, but it goes out if you keep driving. Don't stop, or you could burn the entire rig.
     
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  6. joseph1135

    joseph1135 Papa Murphy

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    Somebody works for Stevens I take it. Stab your brakes, and start the grade as slow as you can. Keep her in a lower gear as well, wherever you are comfortable. Remember, engine braking is a pretty new concept. Didn't always have them.
     
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  7. pokerhound67

    pokerhound67 Heavy Load Member

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    try 14% winding mountain in wv with 3 months experience. get to the bottom of the ridiculous mountain, pull of to the shoulder, and go into the convenience store, where i am thanked "for not running into the store". she told me its not an rare occurrence. then she told me i was only half done...2nd mountain coming up.

    imo you want a gear thats gonna be low enough so that the engine is helping to slow the truck before you get to the suggested speed limit. stab brake to keep 5 mph under suggested limit. that always worked for me.
     
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  8. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Stab braking and lower gear doesn't work if you're on a very steep grade grossing 75 - 80 thousands lbs/ with no jake brake.

    Anyway, there's different ways drivers approach the situation, & I know what worked for me for many years with no problems.
     
  9. 123456

    123456 Road Train Member

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    I thought snub braking was the preferred method ?
     
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  10. losttrucker

    losttrucker Road Train Member

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    I REALLY hope you arent serious!!!
     
  11. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Yes, I am serious. No jake brakes with the first couple of companies I worked for. So, what's your answer, if you're grossing 75K - 80K going down a very steep grade and no jake brake and the engine with a lower gear does nothing to hold you back? I hope your answer isn't what I witnessed 0/0's do, with no jake brake, when pulling a company trailer, & use the trailer brakes to hold them back!
    Come on, what would you do?

    I've been driving since 1982, how about you.?

    I hauled many loads of wool from CA to the Carolina's grossing 80K, so I know what I'm talking about. Old cabover Freightliner with no jake brake & no power steering. So, what's your answer?
     
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