Stopping on Hills/Inclines

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by AndrewMemphis, Feb 10, 2013.

  1. AndrewMemphis

    AndrewMemphis Light Load Member

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    Dear all,

    Is there a way to come to a complete stop on a hill without sliding backwards? There is one particular hill I find rather troubling, and that's at exit 161 in North Little Rock, Arkansas when you're going to the Petro or the Pilot. If you're coming East-bound down I-40, you have to stop at the ramp as it's 3-way intersection with stop signs on all three sides. One for the people leaving the Pilot/Petro, the other for people coming down west-bound I-40 and the other for people getting off the ramp coming East-bound down I-40. I have noticed that many drivers don't even come to complete stops at these signs, they seem to just put it in a very low gear such as 2nd and wait until they feel it's safe to move on. I've found that to be an effective way to prevent from sliding backwards and potentially hitting someone else, but is that legal?
     
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  3. Powder Joints

    Powder Joints Subjective Prognosticator

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    No its not legal. I stop on steep inclines regular. Its part of driving. Use your trailer brake hand valve to hold the truck as you ease out the clutch. If you add throttle, go easy with it.
     
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  4. Vaio127

    Vaio127 Bobtail Member

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    Technically no, and I feel this is one of those spirit of the law vs. letter of the law instances. The law dictates that you must come to a complete stop, though most people would agree that it's better to keep moving slowly and proceed cautiously when the intersection is clear rather than roll backwards and potentially hit an obstacle behind you.
     
  5. Powder Joints

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    This is part of driving. If you cannot start off on a hill, then you have no business behind the wheel. period. My suggestion is learn to drive. Do not run stop signs.
     
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  6. sherlock510

    sherlock510 Road Train Member

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    Yea definitely come to a stop. EASE out of the clutch, when you feel it grab give it throttle.. Simple.
     
  7. terrylamar

    terrylamar Road Train Member

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    Your air brakes take about a second or so to release. You have plenty of time to time taking your foot off the brake and letting the clutch out. Find a place to practice with no traffic. It isn't very hard to do.
     
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  8. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    If you're heavy, drop it in a very low gear and come to a halt. The lower the gear, the easier it is for the clutch to pull you forward. You ease off the clutch and the brake at the same time and the clutch will pull you. You don't want to roll backwards because you will either hit someone behind you ( you know that stupid 4 wheeler that pulled 2 inches off your ICC? Yea, that idiot) or twist your driveshaft like a pretzel.

    There are quite a few drivers that will not come to a complete stop to avoid having to pull from a dead stop. I'm not going to debate the whys and why nots. The thing that we all need to know is how to control the vehicle in all situations. Sure we all like to avoid trying to pull out of a hole, but sometimes, it's unavoidable. And if you are ever HEAVY heavy, like in a heavy haul load, or a B Train, it's even more important. But your normal truck, 80000 lbs, your granny gear should be more than sufficient to pull you out of a hole.
     
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  9. G/MAN

    G/MAN Road Train Member

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    I always come to a stop at a traffic light or stop sign. If a cop sees you running the stop sign, you will receive a ticket that is considered a "moving violation" on your MVR. If you have a problem using the clutch to pull out on an incline or hill, then you can use the hand brake, as someone else suggested. It should become easier with practice.
     
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  10. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Just how steep is this exit that would cause you to slide backwards?Can someone post it on here?If it's that steep and don't feel safe at that piticular exit then why even take that exit.I've taken many steep exits with a warning sign before you take it.As long as you go real slow and not come barrowling down like some bad ### you should be fine.
     
  11. AndrewMemphis

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    Thanks, I had been wondering about this. I guess I will keep practicing -- find some place that doesn't get a lot of traffic. I work between midnight and noon, so anywhere before 6 AM.. I shouldn't have to worry about too much behind me! It does always make me pretty anxious when I feel that trailer sliding backwards, haha. I just have to remind myself to relax, and I know what to do -- I just have to time it right. There was one instance where I literally had to floor the throttle to get it up the hill above 2000 RPM's after I stopped.
     
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