I have an opportunity to add a Pete 387 with Tandem single rears(4 not 8 wheels) and wanted to know the pros and cons of having them. Are they cheaper to run? Do they handle well? Cost per tire? Thanks!
Tandem Singles ?
Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Ga Big Dawg, Mar 2, 2013.
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I don't and won't run super singles,hear supers are pricey and have talked to a few drivers that said they have also needed a new wheel when they had blow out.
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they were the rage couple of years ago. some guys still run them but not as big a deal as they used to be.
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We run Michelin xdn2 on all our trucks. I am the only one running super singles. that being said the cost of one super single is about the same price as two normal drives. I would personally never run them recapped I have seen a few blown on the side of the road and I bet they needed to buy a wheel. I think they handle pretty good. They do pretty good in snow and seem to dig through pretty well but the xdn2 have a pretty aggressive tread pattern. I have about 130k on them I believe and the are around half tread left.
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The only advantage they really have is a weight savings. There is a local company here (refer company) that ran them on half of their fleet for awhile. They said that any benefits that they gained in fuel mileage was a wash in having to replace the tires sooner than a dual setup. The biggest downfall of super singles is when one goes flat you are at the mercy of road service, with duals you can limp it in and get it fixed.
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We switched our hopper trailers to ss. It saves us about 400 pounds per trailer which is nice for hauling grain.
All of our grain hauling is local and we have a spare mounted up on a rim if we were to have a blow out.
We won't run them on our tractors or flatbeds.SHC Thanks this. -
As already stated, I won't run them either. One goes flat, your stuck waiting on a road truck to come replace it, as there is no "limping" it to the tire shop. And usually when the tire blows, that rim will also need replaced. Price wise they are about the same as buying 2 standard drives..... I have also hear that they do not do well in rain and snow as they tend to hydroplane more due to the ground contact area, which is usually only the outside edges of the tire and the water gets trapped in the middle. Next time you locate a truck with SS take a look at the tread. You'll see that the outside edges of the tread are wearing much faster than the centers, this is due to the widthspan and inflation. The weight gets put on the egdes where the rim contacts the tire, and the center somewhat curves up into the rim as you travel. Some say that over-inflating the tire just a bit will cure this, but then i would be more worried about a blow out.....
Good thing is that the rims/tires are able to be sold. Don't not buy the truck just because of the wheels/tires. See if the seller will swap them out for duals, or you can always buy new rims/tires and just sell them outright if the truck is worth the money being asked. -
we bought a few smith transport trucks and they had the super singles we're just running them for what life is left in them and swapping out the SS for duals and what ever u do stay out of the mud with just ask any MBI trash hauler i swear they spend more time waiting to get pulled out then they do moving loads the run all SS's garbage in the landfills
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I run super singles here in the northeast(not by choice, company truck) this is the first winter i,ve run with them and i,ve had nothing but trouble. Once theres any amount of snow, all you'll do is spin, reguardless of weight in the box. And the power divider will only help so much. We've had truck after truck have to get winched out. My advice, if you run in an area with any chance of snow, stay far away from wide base tires.
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And yes, you'll want to get off the road when one goes down, didnt have a blowout but got some road debris and got a flat on the thruway in new york. Glad i was empty but it still got a little squirrely. I see gypsum express pulling full length doubles, some with all super singles. Wouldnt want to be in front of that combo.
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