Schneider chat room - Closed see new thread linked in the last post

Anyone pulling Wal-Mart dedicated as O/O out of DFW for Schneider? Or any other regional or dedicated out of DFW area? Looking to make a change, but want more home time.

 

Roadie I have read the regs and you are wrong. If you have read this reg and it exist post it as proof. Resting in the sleeper under a load or while being unloaded IS NOT LINE 4 unless you think line 4 is "in the sleeper". You show trucking less than a year could be you are very mis-informed.

 

Unless there is a new Walmart DC account out of the DFW area I am un aware of I would have to say it doesn't exist. Greatwide has the local Walmart Dc's or they use thier own fleet.

 

It was posted a few pages back.

 

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/topics/hos/qanda.aspx

This is an excerpt from the revised rules that go into effect 07/01/2013. The key word here is RELEASED. You would have to carry proof from your company stating such. Technically, just because you are not unloading or required to be present on the dock doses not mean you are released. While I was OTR, I only logged 15 minutes; still not 100% truthful, but it was something.

7. What other changes are there in the rule?

1. *A. Definition of On-Duty Time
2. The FMCSA is excluding from the definition of on-duty time (i) any time resting in a parked vehicle, or (ii) up to 2 hours in the passenger seat of a moving property-carrying CMV, immediately before or after 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth.
   1. (1) If a driver spends time waiting to be loaded or unloaded resting or conducting personal business, can the driver log it as off duty?
   2. The changes to the definition do not alter the existing parts of the definition that define, as on duty, “(5) All time loading or unloading a commercial motor vehicle, supervising, or assisting in the loading or unloading, attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded, remaining in readiness to operate the commercial motor vehicle, or in giving or receiving receipts for shipments loaded or unloaded.” Unless a driver is released from all responsibility for the vehicle while waiting to be loaded or unloaded, time spent waiting is still considered on-duty time. [SIZE=-2]Revised on February 13, 2012.[/SIZE]

 

I understand drivers(myself included) and even companies don't follow this rule to a "T", but that dosen't change the fact that it actually is a law. We can argure what we do or think is right all day long, however it's all written in that green/white book.

 

That proves my point, unless the shipper or consignee require you to tailgate a load then you ARE releived from duty until the truck is loaded and ready to be moved. It can be interpeted either way, Whether you follow the spirit of the law or the letter of the law both scenarios are valid. In over five years and many log audits going to the sleeper birth has NEVER been questioned.

 

Based on this , if the customer doesn't require you to tailgate the load what are you responsible for? Please be specific in your responsibilities if you are not tailgating the load.

 

Attending a commercial motor vehicle being loaded or unloaded. Read the last part. It specifically says vehicle, not load.

 

True but there is another statement after that. "unless the driver is released from all responsibility for the vehicle while waiting to be loaded or unloaded" again I ask if you are not tailgating then by the spirit of the law and even the letter of the law because the release is implied you can go to the sleeper. In fact it doesn't even say the release must be verbal which would mean it could be implied by the customer saying we will come get you when we are finished. BUt hey you log your way and I will log mine.