Independant O/O IRP renewal question on 2nd yr estimates
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Hanadarko, Mar 30, 2013.
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There is the problem.
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(excuse me If I repeat anything as I've not read any post beyond the first page)
Every state is different and estimates will vary from yr to yr as its based on the avg of all the registered companies in your state.
Example, you have 1000 companies and (lets pick one state... Calif). If the combined total of all the companies ran 1,850,000 miles, then that equals to 1850 miles avg and this would be your estimated mileage and you would pay on that estimate. Some states have a minimum like RI... 50 miles
You do know that you have to use mileage from July of 2011 to June of 2012...
I've been buying my own tags for 18 yrs now and its always been this way. I've estimated many states for many yrs without any issues.
One thing to consider too is that unless your tractor is Calif CARB compliant, you might want to think about dropping them as they are one of your costliest states to keep on your IRP.dannythetrucker and Hanadarko Thank this. -
For the first time since I have been buying apportioned plates, I left off most of the western states last year. When I renewed this year, the cost was less than $30 to add all 48 states over what I paid last year. Tennessee also has a fee that they add on the the cost and that also increases the cost. I think that I paid $1,930 this year for all 48 states. In Tennessee you can now register online for your IRP and file your quarterly IFTA taxes. You will still need to show proof that you have paid your 2290, but that is about it. I have gotten to know a few of the people in the IFTA and IRP offices. They have been helpful over the years. It does help to get acquainted with these people. It does take longer than it should, but if you can file online, it moves much faster. There was a glitch with my IRP filing online, so I had to make a trip to Nashville to get my cab card. I think that it took about 2 hours, which is fast for getting your base plate. I did fax or email in the forms since I was not able to do it online this year. It is usually an all day affair, if you walk it through.
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One thing to keep in mind with Tennessee or any other state is to make sure you have everything you need before going to the IRP office. Most now require proof of residency. That may include mortgage receipts, rent receipts, utility bills or drivers license. You will also need a copy of your MC authority, proof of insurance and copy of stamped 2290 where you have paid the HUT tax. It would be best to have all that together before making the trip to your state IRP office. I no longer need to show proof of residency or insurance or authority since that can now be checked online. It will save you a lot of headache if you check as to what you will need before making the trip. For me, it is a 2 1/2 hour trip each way to Nashville. I don't want to have to make a trip twice to get what I need. Having your forms filled out prior to going to the IRP will also speed up the process. You may even be able to fax or email your forms to the IRP and have them mail the cab card and stickers to you. I prefer making a personal trip so that I can get my sticker or base plate faster.
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Thanks. Yea, I did drop CA for my renewal. My rig is not CARB compliant and unless some ruling gets over turned or what not, no way I am going to spend any money re-outfitting a rig which is still and was EPA legal the year it was made. But I dont want to turn this thread into a CARB thread...
I sent everything in yesterday and I guess I will wait and see what happens.
Dropped all of Canada, dropped CA and reported the FEW miles I had in some of the states and then said estimate use for all of the rest of the 48. -
I asked the people who make the IRPONLINE celtic calculator to see if they had any way of doing
a 2nd year estimates. Here is the response I got:
The fee calculator does not have a way to designate directly the inclusion of E2. You can enter the specific percentages for the jurisdictions which could emulate E2 calculations; however you would need to come up with the percentages. All jurisdictions designated as an E2 on the renewal will calculate over 100%. It depends on where the jurisdictions are and their estimated distance but with jurisdictions calculating over 100% for fees, it for sure will increase your renewal.
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That is why MNDOT CVO office will not let you use mixed numbers. You go over the 100%. Either you use 100% real numbers or you use estimated. I email back and forth with a person there and over a week, we get it correct and for the smallest amount. Last year, my IRP was $1775.
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Now that would seem fair to me (not the going back and forth) but the use all estimates or not.
If I use 100% estimates and do not report any miles, my IRP would be $1599 (if I recall, its in an earlier post here).
WI wants you to list all miles for states you drove in. I think using estimates would get me into trouble, but I agree that going over 100% is stupid and makes no sense.
Of course I still don't understand it..
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I might understand when I am ready to retire. Till then, I just keep the nice lady at the states email and let her tell me what to do. So long as it seems reasonable and my number is about the same, I am not about to get up in arms about it.
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