What would you do?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by herkloader1, Apr 21, 2013.

  1. Dogbreath

    Dogbreath Light Load Member

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    Safety director here:

    Cause of the fire: Brake(s) out-of-adjustment
    Ruling: preventable.
    Reason: failed to ensure brakes were adjusted correctly during pre-trip/post-trip inspection (which is required).

    Further advise:
    In the future...forget the airlines/electrical line...drop the landing gear, pull the fifth-wheel and jump in the driver seat pull out from underneath the trailer. The airline gladhands are meant to break away clean from the trailer...the electrical line...well the plug will be in the trailer and you will have wires to reconnect to a new pigtail end (been there done this twice in my career folks) in the future; BUT who gives a rats butt about a $15 part and having to reattach eight wires...just jump and and unhook. (advise if it happens to you or anyone else here).
     
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  3. Scott72

    Scott72 Road Train Member

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    You're lucky you weren't severely injured with that exploding tire. I surely can't tell you what to do since I'm not even on the road yet, but I'm glad it worked out how it did.
     
  4. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    Always approach a tire fire at a 45 degree angle. That is to say never go straight in to the tire from the side, and not from the front or back.Same as a vehicle fire. Come in towards the corner of the car. Tires will blow outward from the side or straight back or forward. Cars usually erupt to the back or side. Try not to park under any power lines, and if possible away from any water. Run-off from the fire hoses will have product in it, and contamination of water can get extremely expensive.
    Remember to keep traffic stopped at a good distance away.Notify the 911 caller of your cargo. Fertilizer,while normally not that dangerous, would trigger a larger initial response to the scene.
    I carry 2 extinguishers.
     
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  5. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    I would have stopped asap, in the road if i had to providing its not a fast road. (if no shoulder near by) Grab my 5th wheel release if its safe to do so and pull out. Call 911. As said above, glad hands/ electrical will brake out. I'm not taking time to disconnect them. If trailer is on fire, I'll drop that trailer, forget about cranking landing gear. Assuming the fire doesn't destroy the trailer, landing gear can be replaced. If any flames were near cab, I'd just get out of the truck and let it burn to. Not worth risking my life to save equipment or my job. If my son was in the truck i would have him getting out of the truck as soon as it stopped and running away from it. I always keep safety vest ready in door pockets for me and my co driver so in an emergency we can get um quick. If I could, i'd get out my safety triangles, but i think people will see the flaming trailer. After i'm safely away from fire, I'd try to direct traffic around or stop them. Maybe if the fire is small enough I'd go back with an extinguisher. Fertilizer can flame up quick and get a lot worse.

    But yea, I would never risk my life to save a truck. I also always check the trailer to make sure it is in good condition.
     
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  6. Pound Puppy

    Pound Puppy Heavy Load Member

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    You did exactly what I would have tried. Getting your son away was priority one, and you made sure it happend.

    I was at a service plaza on the Indiana toll road. A Yellow Freight truck had his rrar trailer driver side wheel on fire and while it was just batteries, he was still loaded with haz mat. I grabbed my fire ect. To help, the driver was nowhere to be seen. After I exhausted my ext. I went inside to get one of thierd, and who do I find at Mc D's..... The driver waiting for his food. Instead of warning the guys he was parked next to, which I did, or trying to drop the rear trailer to save the rest of the truck. I ask wth he is doing, he says dont worry I called the fire dept. I actually threw the extinguisher at him and hit him in the legs and yelled at the lazy knucklehead. Cops show up and fire dept. I told the cop what the driver did, and called his safety dept. That lazy donkey would have let two trucks beside him catch fire with the drivers sleeping, and allowed batteries to go, while he sat inside eating mcnuggets.

    Sometimes I wonder why I care enough to try an help people.
     
  7. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    Your post reminds me of something I saw at an auto parts store.

    I am about to walk into the parts store when I see this kid standing in front of a car, engine running, has 2 spray cans going spraying down the engine. His girlfriend is standing beside him with long flowing blonde hair. As I walk by, I notice the 2 cans he is spraying is starter fluid. I snatch both cans from him and get in his face.

    Six: HEY, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU DOING? ARE YOU TRYING TO DIE?

    Kid: The guy behind the counter told me to do this to find a vacuum leak.

    Six: WHO???

    Kid: Him (points)

    Six: (I take the 3rd can from the girl and hand it to him, top still on) Read this. Don't spray anything anymore. Just read.

    I walk inside to the manager.

    Six: Sir, there's a teenage kid outside spraying down a running engine with 2 cans of starter fluid.

    Manager stops everything and looks alarmed. A customer asks, "Is trying to blow himself up?"

    Six: No, he says your employee told him to do this to find a vacuum leak.

    Mgr: Did you tell that kid to do that?

    Employee: Yes, that's how you find a vacuum leak.

    Six: so, you got a kid with a girlfriend with hair down to her butt standing in front of a hot, running engine, saturating it with something that's more flammable than gasoline.

    Employee:......

    Anyway, we do what we do because our conscience will not allow us to stand idle and watch someone get hurt. Good job on the Lazy Yellow.
     
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  8. herkloader1

    herkloader1 Light Load Member

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    Cause of the fire: Brake(s) out-of-adjustment
    Ruling: preventable.
    Reason: failed to ensure brakes were adjusted correctly during pre-trip/post-trip inspection (which is required).

    Not valid
    Not only was the trailer checked by myself it was also checked by one of our most senior drivers before he left to load the trailer. He left it in the yard and I did a pre trip before I took it as well as one the next morning.
    Also drivers had been complaining that the trailer was pulling odd. So it had just been gone over by the shop.
    From looking at it in the day light I believe that a bearing seal must have leaked some oil on the brakes. My wife was a firefighter and she said if it was just the brakes when they go out they tend to stay out, however with just a little oil or grease they will keep re igniting because the heat is enough to cook off the oil again as it hits it.
    We travel on a lot of dirt and gravel roads and I had just come off from one when this happened. I think something broke while on the gravel that lead to the fire.
    I am a big believer in everything is preventable I am just not sure what I did wrong here.
     
  9. jbatmick

    jbatmick Road Train Member

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    If a brake hanging up, you would probably have seen some smoke coming out for a few miles.Not really prone to throwing a lot of sparks. If a seal leaking , should have been noticeable @ pre-trip.I know some ag companies run older equipment, possible tube-type tire ? They will start a fire if run flat. I would vote for no oil in the hub, bearing went out,ignited oil / grease residue due to heated metal. An exam of the wheel after it cooled down would tell the story.
     
  10. Drac1985

    Drac1985 Medium Load Member

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    What he said.
     
  11. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    In either case, a leaking seal should be found during pretrip.
     
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