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Discussion in 'Heavy Haul Trucking Forum' started by botoler, May 5, 2013.

  1. botoler

    botoler Bobtail Member

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    everyone here, whether it be flatbed, oversize, rgn, whatever, everyone has something to ##### about, but that is any job, any newbies reading this post, trucking is what you make it, if you go through a school you are gonna start out with the ####.......thats any vocation , the newbie has got to pay his dues. but thats no reason not to truck. get your experience, haul flatbed, haul oversize, do what you fell is your path.. i guess my rant here is over. moral=dont belive everything you hear/read
     
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  3. dannythetrucker

    dannythetrucker Road Train Member

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    I agree with you, it is what you make of it. However, in 1969 you could buy a new car for $3000, a new house for $15,000. I'm only 35 and I realize it is already much harder for the new guys starting out than it was for me when I was 18-21. Sure, complaining about it does no good, but I think they got a right too.
     
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  4. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    That's right and this post is one not to believe . newbies don't have to start with whatever got censored . There are good opportunities for those with the sense to not run like sheep to slaughter to bottom feeders . Weeks on the road at substandard py is not the only option .
    That is also not "any vocation " most other careers do not require paying thousands to go to a school then to work 4 to 6 weeks at low training pay to earn a wage that hasn't increased in 20 years . How many other vocations have a system like DAC ?
     
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    rank Road Train Member

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    How many others require you to break the law on a weekly/daily basis and if caught your employer will deny all knowledge and fire you.....other than cops and stock brokers.
     
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  6. botoler

    botoler Bobtail Member

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    i didnt say trucking was like any other vocation, i said starting out in trucking is like starting out doing anything, you have to start at the bottom. pay attention
     
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    ColoradoGreen Heavy Load Member

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    Chances are 99% of the guys in the heavy haul sub-forum are veterans, and I'll put money on me being the youngest at 21.
     
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  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    No , this is what you said .

    Many other vocations have great opportunities after schooling .
     
  9. The Space Cowboy

    The Space Cowboy Light Load Member

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    Absurd BS! Newbies can expect to get hired on by training companies that will provide them with training and if they successfully complete the training, with a year or longer apprenticeship depending on the various companies' programs. After the apprenticeship period is over, then they can usually find better jobs with better pay if their driving records are good.

    Your crazy! No one hires newbies right out of the gate that aren't even qualified to drive a truck without supervision and pays them experienced driver wages. If so...please list them! Blowing wind up people's behinds and getting people's hopes up needlessly isn't helpful at all.

    What planet you live on? Practically all careers require far more schooling and training than driving a truck and cost astronomically far more to acquire. Furthermore, the training upon completion usually last for years instead of weeks as well?

    Additionally, wages like anything else are a product of supply and demand and in this case for labor. The problem with the trucking industry is the federal government is constantly tinkering with the labor supply and artificially keeping wages and benefits down at the same time.

    The answer is all of them that require such a similar system?
     
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  10. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    You don't have a clue . Sure maybe 5% of newbies with starter companies will get a better job . What part of over 100% turnover don't you understand ? When a starter company with 5,000 drivers hires 5,000 drivers in a year over 4,000 of them are newbies lasting an average of 3 months . Do a little research and tell me how many carriers have increased their fleet size in the last few years. You'll find fleet size is the same . No more trucks but thousands of new drivers every year .
    Who hires newbies right out the gate at full pay ? Expedite carriers on straight trucks . Better pay with less miles . Time sensitive freight with no waiting at docks - larger , fully equipped sleepers .
    The only thing keeping wages low is a steady supply of foolish wannabes thinking (wrongly) "any job is better than no job " .
     
  11. lilrich

    lilrich Light Load Member

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    learn what a word means before you say something isnt what it is

    100% turnover ?? so there is no new drivers staying with the industry? lol makes no sense

    "The only thing keeping wages low is a steady supply of foolish wannabes thinking (wrongly) "any job is better than no job"
    once again no grounds to prove this is factual ...i say its the old drivers ie O/O that take low pay controlling the standards set by brokers/shippers so the mega carriers have to follow suit or bid lower for the work, but would be no better than your statement as there is no viable proof.

    speaking of things you know some about but not all just makes you look foolish every time you get a chance you CLAIM NEWBIES CAN GET THE BEST PAYING JOBS STRAIGHT OUT OF TRAINING but in reality that isnt true the good pay companys require 1-5 years experience before they will even look at you and that is factual and can be easily proven dont believe me go try and get a local or higher paying job but state you are a newbie just out of school see what kind of reaction you get. than come back here and apoligize to everyone for your ignorance ..or how about you drop some actual company names that state they will hire newbies with links mind you to there website or # so i can call them and varify your info.
    i have done the research and i dont see these mythical companys you so speak of
     
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