Hey guys!
Here is some background:
I have been checking on this site for a long time; however, my parents wanted me to finish my 4 year degree before going into trucking. I recently graduated with my degree in computer science with emphasis in software development so my parents are now alright with me going into trucking. I also have a few family members off the east coast that contract hauls from the military and government with civilian security clearances - I am semi interested in this down the road but it is quite pricey to get into and not really the direction I want to go at this point in time.
Here is my current situation:
I am 21 years old, clean driving record, average health. I am located in Auburn, CA (45 minutes north of Sacramento, CA) so I was looking into Western Trucking School (W. Sacramento Campus) - I have read a lot of things about them, their new 360 hour program takes you up to Tahoe a couple of times on their longer trailer (48' I believe?) and they have another program that guarantees you a paid externship with Werner.
For someone my age... I was very optimistic about a paid externship at a major freight company since they will basically train you in their system without actually hiring you - I would assume if you did a really good job during the 2 month externship you would have a little bit of leverage for pay/sign-on bonus offerings they currently have. However, I have had the chance to read about companies here on Truckers Report, and I have not heard many good things about Werner across these threads. In my own studies prior to meeting with the Western Trucking School recruiter I really wanted to go with Schneider National since they are open to hiring someone as young as I am, and they seem very professional.
What I am looking for in a company:
I think I may have desires a lot of others may not that are getting into trucking most have already had a career and want to get out of the rat race, and get onto the road. My goals would differ slightly, I really did not care for computer science after my second year of college - I always was really interested in logistics and distribution systems, and probably the most sophisticated and reliable network in the US is the vast trucking network.
Currently, I am starting to do my graduate degree online (Maters in Business Administration with Emphasis on Logistics and Distribution Networks) - so I would ideally want to join a fleet that has a lot of upward mobility and a chance to jump from trucking into management and corporate in a few years. If anyone has any insights on how I can best prepare and place myself in a situation with one of these companies.
If nothing else changes my mind on these forums:
I will start at Western Trucking School on June 3rd, 2013. I will graduate from Western Trucking School after a 10 week full time program there and probably take the externship opportunity with Werner.
Please give me any advice you guys have - I know the information is all over these forums but it is quite difficult to find information relevant to me with the vastness of "The Truckers Report"
They always say hindsight is the best sight, and you guys have hindsight on your school experiences and I am sure some of you on this forum have moved from truck driving up to management positions... Your insight would be invaluable!
Thank You!
Scott Johnson
Brand New: California Trucking Student (Many Questions)
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Scotty Johnson, May 14, 2013.
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Welcome to the forum!
I can give you a million reasons of why to avoid the mega-carriers but at this stage most you won't really understand. Those mega-carriers are in the biz of cheap labor. They only want inexperienced new drivers in which they can pay a trainee's wage for months to move their freight. They do not want experienced drivers! In order to solve that problem they created the "lease" program in which they can pay experienced drivers less than trainee's wages by disguising it behind a new shiny truck!
One of the most important factors in avoiding the mega-carriers has to do with your dispatcher. At these big companies the dispatchers are responsbile for over a hundred drivers. This is not good for your financial success. Find yourself a good, smaller carrier to drive for in which the dispatcher has a handful of drivers that they oversee. It is so crucial to have a good working relationship with them and that is impossible at the mega-corps.
Keep in mind that they good companies are a lot harder to find. One reason is that they don't spend millions of dollars in advertising like the mega-carriers do. This alone should set off alarms in your head! Why does a company have to spend millions of dollars in advertising to get YOU to work for THEM?!? Also the smaller companies have drivers that are happy driving for them so that their turn over rate is a lot lower.
So put forth the extra effort... find yourself a good smaller outfit to drive for and you will be a lot happier and be making a lot more money!
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Scott... No on Werner and YES on Schneider as they have a lot of room to grow in many diffrent ways. I have never worked for them but know a drive who was a stock broker and is making pretty good money with his lease program thru them. He runs his truck like a business as it should be.
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@ Chompi
Thank you so much for your reply, I have definitely thrown out much too shallow of a net - I guess the big companies advertising is quite effective! I can definitely improve in that aspect.
@Hammertyme
When I start out I really rather be a company driver - since I have no experience in the industry. Usually a good rule in business at least for myself is to know how the whole business works before I try to develop a successful business. I do have a better feeling about Schneider then the other mega-carriers though.
Thank you guys so far! I hope to learn a lot from the members on here.chompi Thanks this. -
Don't misunderstand me...I think every driver should have at least 2yrs exp. before they are allowed to lease.
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Hey scott I have my undergrad and im working on my masters. I work for dot out of modesto. They have a western pac literally right next door. Dot will reimburse your schooling and the pay is WELL above industry average. You can pm me and ill send you the asst managers number (dot doesnt have recuriters we hire mostly word of mouth).
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Welcome to the forum Scotty. I am in a very similar situation. I have been a driver for 7 years and planning on going back to school also for a degree in logistics. I don't see myself driving a truck for rest of my life. I think you're doing a smart thing by starting off as a driver at least for a year or two. It will give you a big advantage for when you go into management or run a warehouse.
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When you compare management and executive positions in the trucking industry vs. most other industries their earnings are lower to much lower. Now that's not to say you can't make money. Parcel carriers are at the top of food chain and offer a lot internships and other programs to help you move into their companies. LTL carriers are next on the food chain and most offer internships and other programs as well. Next are the Common carriers, they are the lowest on the food chain, but I wouldn't count them out. Some are billion dollar enterprises and some offer internships and other programs as well. Those are the three basic types of carriers out there.
You may want to look at the other side of the coin as well, where you might find more money, benefits, and privileges. Places like ADM, Cargill, Pepco, Coca-Cola, Anheuser-Busch, Miller Brewing, Wal-Mart, Target, Home Depot, Lowes, Union-Pacific, CSX, Proctor & amble, Kraft Foods, and Nestle. These are the movers and the shakers, one e-mail from and one these companies could put ever the largest trucking companies in Chapter 11.Scotty Johnson Thanks this. -
Your hard headed & smart. Welcome, You will fit right in. I have a 35 year old Masters Degree around here somewhere. I like computers too, I like trucks better.
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duckdiver mentioned DOT, which if that's DOT Foods, it's a very good company. Also check with System Transport. Schneider would be good also. Ask Schneider about tanker school.
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