So let me get this straight. You just said you left Columbus, oh, where brokers "don't make much" to go empty to north east where "they make a killing" ?????? So you went empty to a place where you will be expecting 1.25????? Which you stated is below cost of operation ????? Am i missing something??
Empty Running out of Columbus OH Market
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Sounds like your CSA scores ant so great that could be 50% of your problem lots of brokers are really putting the hammer down on carriers with poor scores.
next question i have, why are you trying to stay with that lane you could run southeast into the carolina's than back northeast why are you not looking to see where freight is going up out of other places?
Fl is a strong market going northeast i could get $2.50+/mi going in and its paying that going up if not more. Carolina's are paying $3/mi or better you really need to rethink the way you run. When a broker calls me i never say im looking to go into a one area, i leave my self open and will travel where ever freight is paying.
I take stuff into NJ all the time i get really good money out of my customers but i dont book a load right back to TX at $1/mi because i got over $3/mi going in, last time i took a load going west into OH it paid $900 on 500 miles and spent $160 on tolls got to OH loaded for TN that load paid $1,600 on 600 miles than reloaded in jackson,tn for home 650 miles paid $1,400. so instead of only making $2,000 on heading back home i made $3,900 see what im saying think outside the box!!!GreyBeardVa and rollin coal Thank this. -
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By the way, 2:1 truck to load ratio sucks. I haven't seen OH that bad, but then I haven't looked at TL ratios in a while. Anything under 5:1 and you're in a fist fight to get a decent rate.
For what it's worth, my truck posts usually end up generating two types of calls:
There's an initial blast of calls with cheap offers by brokers I don't know that are trying to move a crappy load at an even crappier rate by calling enough carriers in hopes of finding one desperate or lazy enough to take it. These guys just do a location search and start dialing down the list. 99% of the time, you have probably already seen their load posted. And for a while. Hard to tell sometimes with the way some recycle their posts. On the other hand, you should already know certain lanes and that if a certain load stays up for more than a few minutes something is wrong with it.
Following that initial rush (usually about 15 minutes to an hour later), I start getting calls from brokers I know. These guys do a search, then spot the names they know and call with loads they haven't posted. They know I will get there stuff to point B with no BS. They know I will not over promise, and if I say I can do it, it will happen, barring any sort of unexpected disaster. I answer when they call and do my check calls on time. If something goes wrong, I'm blowing their phones up with updates. Amazingly, I have had several customers tell me that very few of their carriers communicate at all. Such a simple thing, yet most just drop the ball. So apparently over the past 2+ years, I've managed to establish a positive reputation. Oh yeah, at the end of this month, I think my CSA carrier score drops to <50, down from 100-something which isn't anything to sneeze at either. Only a couple of lighting tickets left there, and those come off soon too.
I don't lock in on a destination, but will be picky to the extent of putting that one together with one or two more to get where I want. Sometimes it works to my advantage to lever up the rate. I just tell them, "You know, I really don't want to be there. Maybe you can persuade me somehow." Maybe more money, maybe a reload to a point C, I don't care. Throw it out there and sometimes you reel one in.
I'm sitting in OKC right now getting my truck fixed (I should send the bill to the Louisiana Highway Dept. but that's for another thread). That's not near Atlanta, where I was originally looking to route out of the NOLA area. A guy I like to work with threw enough money on a load he had someone fall off of to get my attention. I didn't want it and had a couple less crappy offers on the table. In the end, I decided to run it since it was an easy trip and the guy treats us good. So instead of getting home cheap, I doubled up and made enough money to maybe pay the repair bill LOL.rollin coal and Crassius Thank this. -
You going in too cheap seeing that you took $1 a mile in you are the problem I wouldnt move my truck for $1 a mile thats just plain dumb I do better that that leased on to a company. If you are pulling reefer there's lots of loads out of that area paying $2.50-$3 a mile
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If that was directed at me, $1/mi is my average profit per mile after excluding fuel, tolls, money for repairs, taxes, permits, plates, fees, insurance, loans, etc. -
Wow! I'll sit 8 days at the house but there is no way i'll ever sit 8 days in a truck! Sometimes I wonder if these ramblings are an elaborate hoax meant to entertain us, if so I must say, bravo!
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SELL YOUR RIG. It will be a lot less stressful on EVERYONE.
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