What is with rates???

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Alf24, May 28, 2013.

What is causing the unbelievably low freight pay?

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    Drivers taking low pay

    28 vote(s)
    44.4%
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    Brokers freezing and holding load

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Bad economy

    9 vote(s)
    14.3%
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    Shippers/Customers allowing freight to sit

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Loads being double, tripled brokered

    17 vote(s)
    27.0%
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    High driver to load ratio

    7 vote(s)
    11.1%
  7. Other

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. BAYOU

    BAYOU Road Train Member

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    if your moving HOTSHOT FREIGHT at $1.90 your cutting your self way to short. Hotshot loads start at $3.00/mile and most run $4/mi
     
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  3. Cat sdp

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  4. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    Ok so here is my theory:

    XYZ Trucking has a contract to move all freight for ABC Mfg at $2.50/mile.
    XYZ has 1,000 trucks.
    ABC Manufacturing has 2000 loads to move.
    XYZ says holy crap, we are over capacity people. Call the brokerages that we deal with an get them to move 1,000 loads or we will no longer be sole source on the ABC account.
    Brokers move 1,000 loads and the outside carriers can get a good rate.
    Fast forward one year.
    XYZ still has 1,000 trucks but ABC only has 1,000 loads.
    Brokerages call XYZ, "Can we have some of your excess freight again?" XYZ says "We don't have any excess freight, but we will pay you $1.50/mile if you can move them for that but not a penny more".
    Brokerages post loads for $1.00/mile and are not flexible on the rate because the loads don't have to move.
     
  5. rank

    rank Road Train Member

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    LOL you must have me confused with someone else.

    Yes. Private carrier since 1981 before getting MC number approx 2006 IIRC.
     
  6. Alf24

    Alf24 Light Load Member

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    Bayou: I do not believe you are talking about the same Hot Shot freight. I am talking about trailers that are limited on weight and can only haul something small that is moving as a full because it needs to be there in 3 or 4 days. If that is what you are talking about getting $3 to $4 on then surely by now everyone would have sold the big rigs and switched to lil trailers. haha I am pretty sure we are talking about something different. I assume you mean some kind of contracted expedited service?
     
  7. Who

    Who Bobtail Member

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    I thought so.

    I used to be 2.
    I quit with the games from that fellow that moves beds, tables and chairs.
     
  8. RickG

    RickG Road Train Member

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    Bayou knows what hotshot freight is . It needs to be there before 3 or 4 days . It isn't what you see on "Shipping Wars " .
    There really isn't that much hotshot freight anymore . Most of it is oilfield . There are some calls from aircraft companies but you are close asking if it is expedite . You are expected to move as soon as you get the call .
     
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  9. Lone Ranger 13

    Lone Ranger 13 Road Train Member

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    Well, I guess it's a good thing I didn't buy that new flatbed trailer and start flatbedding..
     
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  10. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    Yes, i am running flatbed/stepdeck. As for the insider tips, you just have to be smart about your operation. Don't haul lumber, shingles, steel, and other unrefinded products. The money is in the finished product, and specialized use. I make more hauling hazmat that i do anything else. OS/OD used ot be where the money was, but too many people have come into the platform division of trucking and started ruining those rates as well. Rates are not great, but there are plenty of good loads out there. Right now, since 1/1/13 to 5/31/13 I am at $2.42 mile on all hub miles this year (35,123 miles)
     
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  11. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    Today is the first of the month more or less. Rates are back to sucking agian. friday and end of month are my two best times for
    making a decent rate.
     
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