What is with rates???

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Alf24, May 28, 2013.

What is causing the unbelievably low freight pay?

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    Drivers taking low pay

    28 vote(s)
    44.4%
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    Brokers freezing and holding load

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Bad economy

    9 vote(s)
    14.3%
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    Shippers/Customers allowing freight to sit

    3 vote(s)
    4.8%
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    Loads being double, tripled brokered

    17 vote(s)
    27.0%
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    High driver to load ratio

    7 vote(s)
    11.1%
  7. Other

    1 vote(s)
    1.6%
  1. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    It's LTM = Less Than Money. i don't fool with it if the first piece don't pay you'll have a trailer
    full on none money paying freight. Done it before and you never find enough stuff going within a reasonable distance to make the numbers work.....
    The odds of find two or three things going the same fifty mile radius and picking in fifty miles is about like winning the lottery.Think I had it happen once in going on seven years and the first piece paid enough for the trip anyway. Time you figure your time of waiting all the stopping and dropping the only
    person making the money is the broker. Anyone saying otherwise is more than likely lieing.
     
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  3. fisher guy

    fisher guy Road Train Member

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    This is bull I'm sorry there's a lot of guys just on here that do LTL and do very well cluck and me being 2 of them all I do is Maine to Houstonand back occasionally bouncing up to Chicago land 90% of the loads I do are legal LTL I average 1500 a week before taxes as a company driver getting percentage a couple weeks ago a friend of mine who is new to this board who also works at the same company I do grossed 13000 to the truck just in ltl's

    To to say there is no money in it or its like winning the lottery to get a good load set up is false yes it is hard sometimes but there is money to made doing it

    Oh and just to clarify most of our stuff is through brokers and load boards
     
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  4. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    It's your story stick to it. If you're a company driver making 1500 a week @25% that would mean your generating over 310,000 a year revenue and I find that hard to believe doing ltl stuff?
    Not saying it's impossible, but highly suspect. I find most people want to take the best and brag, NOT the average of what something is.
    Time you figure time, effort and miles I've never seen anyone that said ltl worked for them. There's a guy in ca. that talks that stuff to the unknowing.
    Then you see them a year later and the real truth comes out. Maybe you've found the holy grail of ltl? but I doubt it.
     
  5. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    Mr Mcgoo, I disagree, just stay loaded, I ran from NE Ohio to SLC up into IdAho back to my house basically and was never empty. Was out 10 days truck took home $9500, if you've got space on your trailer and weight to use and you don't Atleast look for something to go with it then, then well your loss my friend, $500 is 125g of fuel @ 6mpg that's 750miles worth of fuel. Ill take all the $500 pieces I can
     
  6. Cluck Cluck

    Cluck Cluck LTL Wizard

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    Some people got it and some people don't
     
  7. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    My truck gets 9-11 on average unless I idle a lot. maybe I'm just tired of the people guy offered me 2.83 a mile to go to pittsburgh area. I really don't pittsburgh and you have the toll road to pay.
     
  8. HwyPrsnr

    HwyPrsnr Medium Load Member

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    Sorry, but some of us run off of real life...NOT news feeds. What's happening out here in the REAL world is far different than what the news wants to show. If its NOT gonna get people to watch...then they don't cover it in the news. Better off putting your nose to the grind-stone and finding the loads, because they ARE there. PLENTY of them. Be safe out there drivers.
     
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  9. SHC

    SHC Spoiled Rotten Brat O/O

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    The difference is you two put freight that pays full truck rate, and find other stuff to fill it out. Many guys don;t have the time or smarts to figure that out, or just want to drive and not do some actual work. My best week was when I put 2 truck loads on the same wagon and cleared $14k on 5 day run and was still under 30k pounds. Going to try to top that this year ;)

    My load on Friday goes from Chicago to Idaho Falls and pays $8,000. I'll most likely DH down to SLC and grab a load back east. On a 5-6 day run I'll clear $9k to the truck after fuel.
     
  10. mcgoo422000

    mcgoo422000 Medium Load Member

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    If you read you'll see they're talking about that 500 dollar, dollar a mile crap. Putting two FULL rate loads on trailer at once is good done it once or twice but not enough to suit me. Theres a difference and like I said before you have to look at the whole picture and not the corner.
     
  11. old time

    old time Medium Load Member

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    I will agree with mcgoo that a lot of LTL is now going at ridiculously low rates. But that said, a lot of good operators are making good coin doing LTL's but you have to choose them right.
     
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