Tankers the Schneider way

Now THIS is the conversation, between ethos and wsyrob, I've been waiting for! I love it! My struggle comes down to deciding between these two carriers, frankly! I think that ethos runs more days than wsyrob, as in approx. 300 per year (3 weeks out, 3 days off plus vacation time). As wysrob has done in post #282 of this thread: http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...riers/165813-superior-carriers-2012-a-29.html , you will see (and in some other posts of his) that he shows how he comes up with $.57 per mile, including all the extra pay besides CPM, that tanker haulers get, added in. Too bad you don't keep track of your miles, ethos. This way, you could compare your numbers to wsyrob's and know how well you're doing with Schneider verses Superior, on an "all added in" per mile basis. Certainly not criticizing you, my friend, I admire you, truly! Just never too late to start doing something new.

For me to go to work with Superior, I believe I'd make more money, and I know that as hard and long as I'm going to have to work and want to work, I'd prefer making more money than less, though from what I've gleaned, Schneider does pay well. Knowing I'd be up to $.41 in a year for CPM with Schneider, sounds good. I also know that for me to get Solo, due to my individual circumstances with my CDL and with Superior's training time, it will literally take 2 months more with Superior than it will with Schneider. For me, I want this to be my last stop, on the career path to retirement. To get on with a company that I want to stay with for years to come, exercising patience for just 2 extra months, shouldn't be a big deal!

One thing I like with Superior is that when I do finally get Solo, they'll keep me local/Regional for an entire year. According to your next post, ethos, you're right, the first year with Superior, being local and Regional, I probably wouldn't make as much as the 2nd year, being otr. I guess they like to keep their newbs close to home that first year. Sounds good to me rather than running up the east coast,... in the snow, with Schneider, just having been solo for a short time. I am pretty cautious overall, and slick roads, especially as a trucker, are a little bit spooky for me. In time I'll certainly get more used to it. I don't know what states Superior's Houston Region comprises? Sure, they could run me up into north Texas where there's plenty of snow. And by the time I would get Solo, it would be nearing winter.

Another factor, being at my home away from home in California, now, I love this area! And hearing from wsyrob, how often he gets to run east to west, is attractive, vs Schneider. These are all considerations for any of us.

Thanks guys, for hashing some of these things out for us! I admire both of you!

 

Now you could do regional right off the bat with Schneider but again, to make good money it is my opinion that you need to run longer.

 

Allright just for you guys I will try and round up my miles for last year.

 

Just strictly going on what the training instructor told us at orientation, there is a driver shortage because they have picked up new business (he didn't say what particular companie(s), and in the past month they have had 3 or 4 rollovers, 8 to 10 drivers that were fired for hitting objects in low speed incidents and just guys turning in their hoses because they didn't like the job.

I'm sure all the failures during the pre-work screen is just exacerbating the situation. Trainer said Schneider likes to have around 975 drivers in the tank division and right now they are sitting at about 800. His words, not mine. Take from it what you will.

 

The OSR was way off on the rollovers, wonder what he was thinking?

 

Probably tyring to scare the newbie tanker drivers into submission. Scared straight, the Schneider way!!!

 

I came back to ADM after a 6 month deal with Schneider. When I was leaving Carry to come back, ADM's DR. has started the "I think you might have sleep apnea" junk on everyone and wouldn't give me my medical card. It was going to take forever to get it done on my own, so I went to Schneider and they even paid for it all. Been back here 3 months now. I gotta give the union props though, they actually stood up for us at contract time instead of throwing us under the bus.

During my year and a half with ADM the first time, I had gotten really spoiled and didn't realize it till I was gone. I made VERY good money, off once through the week (sometimes 2 times) and off every weekend, great benefits for pennies, treated well, great equipment (I love a Mack), and though not the last thing, but its where I'm stopping, its the only place I have ever worked in my life where I have NEVER been asked to do something unsafe or illegal even just once. So that's why I came back. I have some money and only a mortgage and the wife's van payment, so I don't chose my jobs based on it. Although I will not stay out all week for little paychecks where I would qualify for food stamps. There's no reason to stay away from the wife and 4 (5 will be here in Aug) kids when I could go to Mc Donald's and make more and be home every night. So to make a big paycheck and have all the perks, you just can't beat it.

 

Yeah, I've been here over 2 years now and have made it to California once.

Also I don't know about the local/regional for a year thing. That is either something new or something the terminal you are thinking of applying at does. Within 6 months of starting I had traversed the entire eastern seaboard and most all of the midwest.