Posting For Good and Bad Brokers

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by khenders, Oct 30, 2007.

  1. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    You're probably right Red. All 5 of those loads were booked at like 16:00 been on the board all day... No-one, especially mega-brokers, ever wants to pay $3-$4 a mile in the morning unless you're in a hot market. Most everything I book is in the afternoon and it's down to a couple of brokers, like your situation, who are trying to cover their load. Wednesday and Thursday tend to be my best days. Mondays and Tuesdays some weeks are good, some weeks I'm still at home then.. I enjoy doing the short haul same day pick/drop stuff because around 2,3, 4pm even as late as 6 or 7 pm I'll be getting calls about reloads, and it's always game on when the calls come in. Of course that's when there's good work out here and calls coming in. Sometimes there are no calls at all.
     
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  3. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    Nursery loads are a major pita.

    I think you were right there on the rate.

    They think some dummy will do it cheaper.

    I wouldn't be surprised if they call you in a few weeks.

    (btw, I accidentally received a inter office department memo the other day when I loaded late at a shipper who had agreed to have someone load me after hours, it was a communication between the broker and the shipper that was in with the bol, and the guy who loaded me didn't know that I wasn't supposed to ever see it, let alone give it to me...lol..... it had the rate that the shipper was paying on it, and that rate was double what I was getting, and I was getting a pretty good rate.....just fyi)
     
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  4. Raven12

    Raven12 Bobtail Member

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    Curious, New here and just started reading this but how would you benefit from full rate dis closer would that not end up with drivers dealing directly with the Brokers clients?
     
  5. MIKEG

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    rollin coal check your inbox
     
  6. Raven12

    Raven12 Bobtail Member

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    thanks that answers my question
     
  7. rollin coal

    rollin coal Road Train Member

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    Yeah I get so tired of hearing "but we'll have to dig in our pockets and lose money to pay your rate" really I don't believe that line anymore. Who does business like that? I think it's more like "well, we told them what we'd get it covered for and truthfully we don't want to embarrass ourselves or anger them by going back and asking for more"... ...when really that's all they have to do. I'm doing a load right now that was shopped for several days as a 20 ft length partial weight 12,000 lbs. It turned out to be 28 feet in length at 12,000 lbs. They paid $2,000 gross on 605 loaded miles. I had 15 deadhead to go pick it up. I got to the shipper 30 minutes after everyone went home. They called me literally 15 minutes before the shipper closed wanting my truck. I was about to go home myself and call it a week, a big deadhead home empty... I told them that was what I was about to do hurry it up, lol ...They never claimed they lost money though, I'm sure they made plenty on it. If they had only given it to me that morning instead of waiting all day.... But they were trying to shop it as a partial when all along I am sure the customer was paying full rate, which is what I always quote on partials if someone calls me. It's a load do you need the truck or not???
     
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  8. texasmorrell

    texasmorrell Medium Load Member

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    Total Quality Logistics

    Kansas City Missouri to Marshall Texas

    Rate $1050

    Commodity scrap material from a job site

    Deducted $1000 from the agreed rate because the load arrive one day later than what they wanted.

    Truck had mechanical problems. Was in contact with the consignee the whole time. The consignee gave me permission to arrive the next day. They stated they didn't even need the scrap material because they have nowhere to put it.

    I made it very clear on the rate confirmation that I do not do just in time shipments. And that the date and time on the rate confirmation was an ETA only.

    TQL stated they deducted $1000 because that is what the customer deducted. But of course they will not tell me who the customer is nor provide me any proof that the customer deducted this amount.

    To date I have done business with 378 different brokers and 1362 loads. I have been paid the agreed rate for every single load by every single broker I have ever done business with even if the load arrived later than what was planned. With the one and only exception being TQL.


    Run run far run fast from T QL. If you do business with them you have no one but yourself to blame when you don't get your money for whatever stupid excuse they make up.
     
  9. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    It sure could, especially if you also found out that it was double brokered.....

    Really what it does is provide valuable information, namely what the shipper is actually paying, so in the future you can negotiate in a way that says, "hey, I know what the shipper is paying, and here's where I need to be..."
     
  10. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    A lot of times those partials are being paid as full loads by the shipper, with the broker pocketing the extra...
     
  11. LSAgentOZR

    LSAgentOZR Road Train Member

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    I bid a load at over $4,000. TQL undercut me at $3,800. Carrier took the load for $3,000. You guys are your own worst enemy...
     
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