Schneider lied to me

Personally, I think that any company that "pulls" you into their training school will always rip you a new one. Most people i have talked to that went to "company schools" have seem to get robbed. They make a lot of their money this way--its a shame but how it goes. I got mine on my own and yes it cost me around $3000 but most community colleges have the course for a decent price. It beats payin these company's the interest on this stuff and then knowing your forced to stay there for years just to get your certificate.

 

I'm not sure what all the fuss is about, but the contract is on Schneider's website for ANYONE to download. Yeah, it may not be right, but it's in black and white, and afterall, nobody MADE anybody sign anything.

 

This is true--so glad i paid for my own schoolin when i got mine--didnt have to worry bout all this mess.

 

Again, when I was a Sni for training I witnessed instructs going way beyond helping people succeed in passing the coarse... Nobody went home unless they had lied on ap, health reason, or just plain quit.... There was several girls who never drove a clutch before and the instructors spent extra time with them.. Matter fact I seen one of the girls about a year latter and she was doing fine...

So, this post really seems strange to me that Sni would tell anybody to go home after 3 days.....

When I went threw there they had everything you needed to become a well trained driver... But I did witness many people not putting effort at all and not taking advantage of the training.. Unfortunately these people would make it threw the class and go on to be drivers.... That's the scary part...

 

Ya i agree with you here--i am thinkin something more severe happened. I dont get that any company would send you home after 3 days after they spent money to get you there. I never heard nothin fishy about schneider much. They have to want to learn and i guess some people give up too easily.

I have enjoyed your honest posts though. Its quite nice hearin good things as well as the bad--but all jobs has their ups and downs. Its a part of life--you learn to deal with it

Good luck to you and Be safe!

 

Well hmm, unless something has changed in the past few months, they are a two week course. That is what I went through and I started off as a noob.
Schneider also does not expect their drivers to learn the shifting in one day. I don't think we even got in the trucks until the third, possibly fourth day. They even told us they don't expect us to master shifting and that we will grind gears; its important that you know the concepts of shifting and such and how to keep control of the truck that is most important. ALthough if you can't find a gear to save your life, then thats not good.

The Trailers they use are the Wabash trailers....53 feet...that doesn't count the tractor.
Also, they actually LIKE IT if you havent driven stick before because you can be taught more easily on how to double clutch. For those of us who have driven stick before, the concept of double clutching is much harder. Lots of people say you will do better if you have no stick experience.

*you signed a contract, that you would repay them for the training, however you had x amount of days to change your mind....not sure if it was three or four.
*That contract said that you paid the x amount for training but if you left training before completion, you would pay only for the training you recieved.
*The contract did not promise or guarantee a position with the company as the training is a seperate entity from Schneider.
*no matter what a supervisor says, you are bound by what you signed on the contract.
*They also don't give you a CDL as you have to earn it by using the skills you learned. They might do a third party test on you for a CDL exam, but that still doesnt guarantee you a CDL. Basically the training course is designed for you to take the CDL exam.
From what I can remember during our training, 2/3 of our class didn't make it to completion. Some bailed on their own, others were shoved out because they were morons (ie...a man we nicknamed Jesus), others simply weren't making it and it was rather clear they were having a hard time. Nobody that I can remember (unless Im mistaken) was asked to leave that was doing well. They also provide extra time and tutoring with those who are struggling.
They also seemed to make it fairly clear exactly what we were signing when we were doing the paperwork.
For anybody who is wondering, heres the contract for Green Bay:
http://www.schneiderjobs.com/pdfs/greenbaycontract.pdf
So yeah, this seems strange, because with all the effort they seem to put in towards you passing, I find it odd they kicked you out on a day when it is common for people to struggle. But then again, this reminds me of a couple of my classmates who thought they were doing nothing wrong when in all reality, they weren't doing anything right. Like My roomie...I kept telling him not to sleep with my Elvis Pigs pillow...but noooooo (hehe!)

 

I don't drive for Schneider but I do have some experience with debt collectors. First if schneider sold your $1,000 debt to a collecter they most likely only got $200 or less from them. I doubt that covers anything they actually spent on you ie hotel meals etc. Second don't pay it. If you are worried about credit bear in mind that seven years from now this won't appear on your records. Most banks will not look past five years for a home loan. If you get sued then depending on your state you may not have to repay and the plantiff will have no recourse to collect. Having a judgement will however prevent you from getting a gov. backed mortgage. If you get sued it will happen in your county(Home field advantage) which gives you the opportunity to show the collecters are trying to recover money from a highly suspect deal. I wouldn't pay them at all but if you are going to then wait a year(Your credit score has already been dinged) then offer them $200.00 cash that day only and only after they send you an e-mail or letter stating your payment is "Payment in full" This money is not going to schneider it is the collecter's money. Schnieder is done with you and has been from the moment they gave they debt to the collecter. Hope that helps.

 

I think that instead of getting advice from someone that has experience with debt collectors, we get someone with knowledge about the process first hand...as far as maybe from a debt collector themselves. They aren't going to say "Well we sent Frank a letter and he hasn't paid us...so thats all fine and dandy." Your credit will be affected, and Im sure there are other options for them to consider. As far as you being taken to court, you signed a friggen contract, how can you get out of that? Sort of like Mr. Idaho...."im Guilty...........ok now Im not"

Also, I don't think they will settle for you paying them less than what you owe. The average cost for SNI when a student quits within their first year is about 7-8 grand. So yeah...offering 200 isn't going to cut it.

 

Good points you make. Technically speaking Schneider has done nothing wrong and an honorable person will pay debt on a contract he signed. Keep in mind the situation though... Most students are bussed from god knows where and maybe they were never told of a contract obligation until the moment they are requested to sign it in class. Two seconds isn't a lot of time to think it over.

 

Well the thing is that we are told of the contract before hand. I got a packet via email (in my case) and in it was a copy of the contract I would sign. Also, while I think they want you to sign it so they can complete the paperwork and get your stuff finished during the class; I don't see them putting up much of a fight if you ask them for a day or so to think it over.