Phoenix Truck Driving Instute

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  1. Yohner

    Yohner Bobtail Member

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    I have been exchanging emails with another wannabe who lives in Phoenix. He asked about the driving school I'm attending. I just finished my second week and here is what I told him:

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    Let me say that starting in June was a good decision. There are only four students in the class and normally there are 12-16. One of us only shows up occasionally. So, for the most part, there are only three of us in class. I told one of the other students that we're starting our Junior week.


    The first week was pretty boring. I like to learn, so I kept reminding myself that I was learning something new. But, all we did was listen while the instructor read from the CDL manual and explained things to us. I was impressed with the school and the instructor. He took time to explain several times how air brakes work. I have no background in mechanics, so it took him multiple times to get it through my head. Also, I watched Youtube videos which helped.


    When we do the 7 Step Inspection, I have the same problem. “Point to the <engine part>. What am I looking for?” Things that most truck drivers take for granted are huge road blocks (pardon the pun) for me. But, the instructors are patient and keep explaining things to me. I take lots of notes (no one else does) and for me it will be a lot of memorization. The others seem to just understand it. There are more Youtube videos on this, so I'll be watching those.


    We went down Monday and took the state tests. I passed them all but Hazmat. So, I studied, watched more Youtube videos and re-took it. I passed. Now, I just need my fingerprints cleared by TSA. By the way, make sure you get all of your endorsements. It’ll be easier to get a job and they are included in the class tuition.


    We started in the truck last Thursday. We can do the three basic moves: backing up; parallel parking and the Offset. One of the guys has been driving pick-ups with trailers, so he is really good at driving and backing up (though, I suspect he has illegal practice in a tractor-trailer.) The other student and I struggle. But, the instructor gave us hand-outs which help a lot. If I can do something, read and memorize and then do it again, it comes together a lot sooner.


    I struggle with self-confidence more than anything. Part of that is just my personality. Part of it is that I’m 55 years old. Part of it is that the trucking world is so far removed from anything I’ve done that it is a bit intimidating.


    On the plus side, at 55 years old when an instructor is screaming and pointing and turning red in the face, I don’t want to start crying. Actually, when he does that he looks like the Lucky Charms leprechaun, so it's kind of funny.


    That’s where I’m at so far. I like Phoenix Truck Driving Institute. The instructors know what it takes to get you through. They know what to teach so you can pass the tests. Any problem you’ve had, someone has already had so you never have to feel stupid or slow.


    I hope this helps and I hope you have as much success as I have had. I feel like I’ve made a good decision.


    Regards,


    Tom
     
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  3. Starboyjim

    Starboyjim Road Train Member

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    Tom, hang on to your dream, your goals. Last year, 1st year back, company driver, made $36K in 9 months. This year, I should make well north of $55K, in a company truck. I'm buying a tractor right now, and will take another step up if I'm smart about it. (not too much time off, not too picky about loads) I'm much older than you, drove 400K miles in the '80's, came back to the modern CDL world about 200K miles ago. I mean to post a few items from those miles, but for now, backing is different every time, no matter how many places you back into. Just go slow and watch your mirrors. All of them. And, take it easy, don't push. You'll get there just as fast if you take it easy on your rig, and yourself. Are you going to run a year or two with a company, going for O/O? Most guys will say "don't lease." Me included. Stay the course, it's hard, but a good, clean way to earn money. You're right, by the way, you'll have to go a long way to screw up worse than most guys already have. Occasionally. J
     
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  4. Yohner

    Yohner Bobtail Member

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    I have a pre-hire with Warner. My only requirement for hire is that I can bring my dog with me after training. I have no parents, siblings, partner or kids. So, it's just me and Spike. Thanks for the encouragement, Starboyjim. I am alternately excited and terrified. And, after years of mediocre jobs, it's nice to have feelings about a job.
     
  5. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    Watkins & Shepard has a pet policy also, unless they've changed their policy. At least with them you won't have to spend weeks with a trainer & then just you and Spike.
     
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  6. lilrich

    lilrich Light Load Member

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    would this be AIT? i went there and they didnt fully graduate me do to not turning in there forms on time after i was on the road with a company back in 2006. i was a week late on the last one which was due to the simple fact i got off the trainers truck 1 week early do to the exceptional skills i had from the school. I had to get a personel from the company i was with sign off on the last form.
    The guy i talked to there said it wouldnt be a problem and told me to just have some one in there office sign off on it but for some reason upper management said it was viable since i wasnt with a trainer that week.
    so i refused to continue to pay them for the school and told them i would not pay them as they failed to full fill there end of the agreement, until they accept that i did full fill my end and thought they should be happy that the training i received was above par to the companys normal intakes.

    so if it is be sure to get your trainer to sign off on all there forms even if you get off his/her truck earlier than there standards. they are a great place to learn to drive a rig, when you leave you will be better off than many others that are getting into this industry.

    i had left the trucking industry for awhile due to family medical issues but i am now getting back into it again now

    also hope you do know that you most likely wont be able to bring the dog with you while with a trainer. and i would look to other company's before fully signing on with werner. there are better options out there IMO.
     
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  7. Yohner

    Yohner Bobtail Member

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    Thanks, lilrich. I have a dog sitter coming in to care for Spike until I am done with training. Someone just suggested Watkins and Shepard. So, that is my next step.
     
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  8. lilrich

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    cool glad you have someone to watch over your friend for the time being. and watkins shepard is a decent company to work for from what i have heard. wish you luck in your journey and finding a company that best suits your needs im sure you will find it.
     
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  9. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    I'm in Arizona and researching different driving schools. Thanks for the info, and please keep us updated about your experience with this school. I'm 53 and will be 54 before I can start training. My first concern regarding getting into trucking was how is my age going to affect things, but I have been assured it's not an issue. I'm grateful for that. Anyway, good luck to you, sounds like you have the right attitudes and perseverance. Looking forward to learning how this all works out for you, especially employment after training. I'm considering going with Swift since employment after training is basically a guarantee. I've heard mixed reviews about their training however. Also looking into Southwest truck driving school and Yuma School of trucking. Since I've got time before I can get started, I'm doing what I can to research and find what I think my best option will be.
     
  10. Yohner

    Yohner Bobtail Member

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    Since you asked, here is a summary of the last two weeks of school:

    I really like the instructors. I said before they know what they are doing. They know what to teach so you're ready for the test. They laugh, joke, tease in that male-bonding way that makes it fun to be around them. The other students are supportive and will give you a hard time for mistakes, but in a friendly-we-all-do-it way. And, I say this because it took me a long time to understand that, so I'm enjoying it a lot.

    Typical mistakes are to ride the clutch, not shift correctly, not knowing the shifting pattern, riding the accelerator, etc. They are things everyone does and you hear the instructor repeating over and over, "foot off the clutch", "tap the clutch", etc. I'm surprised by how much of trucking is doing things you have been told not to do in a car. So, there are a lot of patterns to break.

    The only thing I would like to see corrected at PTDI is that there is too much sitting around waiting. I"m there at 5:30 like we are suppose to be. Let me practice my pre-trip inspection. Let me practice yard maneuvers (backing up, off-set, parallel parking). Don't make me sit there waiting for more students. On Wed, I got fed up and left at 7:30. I called the director and the next day we weren't sitting around any more. So, make that a plus about the school that you can call and things get better.

    Age is definitely not a problem. I have two pre-hire offers. My only requirement is that I can take my dog. So, I don't have more offers because of that limitation.

    The Yuma school is the same company as Phoenix Truck Driving Institute. S/W and AIT have good reputations, too. I don't know much about Swift because of my own distrust of big companies.

    You're smart to start researching now. Also, there is a place (I forgot the name) that will help you get a WIA grant to pay for school and help you with the research. If you're interested, I can ask someone on Monday. I'm one of the few who is paying for my own training. Almost everyone there is on a grant.
     
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  11. Six9GS

    Six9GS Road Train Member

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    Thanks for the update Yohner. I will be paying my own way also, even if I end up doing the Swift thing or similar. Much cheaper in the long run and it eliminates being stuck working somewhere if something better does pop up. When I take a differed retirement from my current job (will be able to start drawing my pension annuity at age 60), I end up with a decent lump sum that will enable me to go a couple of years without employment if need be. So, it won't be a major problem possibly making lower wages at first and also thinking a couple of years down the road, I may have enough to purchase my own rig, or at least only have to finance a minimal amount and have the necessary emergency fund available in case it is needed. But, won't be making that decision till I been in the industry for a couple of years. But, from what I have learned thus far, and knowing myself, seems more reasonable than not that I'll opt to go the Owner operator route, possibly even go for my own authority. But, I'll wait and see, just making sure I do thing in such a way as to keep that a viable option should I choose to take it when it's appropriate to do.
     
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