Clarify something for me about water hauling

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  1. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    They basically spend ALL of their time on rough, bumpy roads? They never get paid to sleep? They never set the cruise and settle in for a nice long trip listening to the Alex Jones radio show or a book or anything like that? And, the same goes for crude?

    See, we often talk about pay differential, but we don't spend a lot of time talking about the work itself.

    Sand, most of the driving is on blacktop except for the last 5-20 miles, or so. That 5-20 miles of rough roads can blow, but I can't imagine staying on the bad roads constantly. And with sand, oftentimes you get break. You might sit and wait at the well, and after two hours I start to get paid. The hourly guys are paid the entire time. It's really nice to come off 10 hours getting paid to sleep and you are ready to go the moment you are empty. That hasn't been happening much for me lately, however.

    Does the incessant pounding from a water or crude job wear you out? Is there anything you like better about water or crude besides the money? TIA
     
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  3. Me99

    Me99 Medium Load Member

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    It depends on where you haul water. In the Dfw area it's almost all paved roads and you get about twenty to thirty minutes of downtime for every load plus another fifteen or so at the disposal. There are some long hauls around here but generally your not gonna drive down the interstate for more than an hour at a time.
     
  4. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    OK, DFW it's paved roads. Interesting. Anyone know about ND?
     
  5. TLeaHeart

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    Wyoming, 60 to 90 mile hauls are the normal, and 75% of that is highway hauling crude. Takes about an hour to gauge and load the trailer, which means 30 minutes waiting for the trailer to load. The unload takes about 30 minutes, 5 minutes to hook, unhook and 25 minutes watching the trailer unload. no incessant pounding here.
     
  6. MP3 > CB

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    OK thanks, great answer. You can imagine what I'm talking about. I endure the "Indian" reservation up here, but I don't live on it. The water guys, as far as I know, it must be constant pounding.

    But, hauling crude, no one is paying you to sleep, are they? Just so no one takes this the wrong way, like I'm being lazy, paid down time has to be taken into the calculation when evaluating a job. If I get paid to sleep, that means when I'm empty I'm ready to go get another load, I don't have to find some place to shut down. Further, there is just the exhaustion factor. Pounding, pounding, pounding, that's going to wear you out.

    I know sand haulers make less, but the demurrage used to offset that somewhat. I've spent as long as 50 hours sitting at a well, on the clock, resting and getting paid. Back in the day, these guys would sit on a load for a week, oftentimes at a truck stop, all on the clock. It sounds like the O/Os made out like bandits. But, I get little demurrage anymore. Without that perk, I'm considering switching to one of these $25-$30/hr "working" jobs.
     
  7. snowwy

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    my last local company. did snow removal. as trade for the salt they bought. they'd haul salt in the desert from one side to the other side where the company was loading on trains for states on the east side. it was all dirt road. and when wet really got hammered so when dry. it was all bumps.

    one way was 30 miles. top speed was 20 if you were lucky. really sucked holding the pedal all day cuz you can't go fast enough for the cruise.

    at the end of the season. the headache rack that truck had broke off. and the frame got cracked. but apparently it was cracked from the year before. couldn't figure out why it had to thick plates bolted to the frame in a sandwich manner. now i know why.
     
  8. TLeaHeart

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    all day cabs, no place to sleep in the truck, I sleep at home every night. Less weight on the truck, means more barrels of crude in the trailer, and since I am paid by the barrel, the more barrels the more I and the company makes.
     
  9. MP3 > CB

    MP3 > CB Medium Load Member

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    Home? What's that?
     
  10. TLeaHeart

    TLeaHeart Road Train Member

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    spoken like an OTR... My personal life improved greatly when I left OTR, and now have a Home.
     
  11. Rockdoctor

    Rockdoctor Medium Load Member

    I haul crude and drive 500 miles a night so plenty of time for audio books. I listen to a lot of podcasts through Sticher, check it out if you need an app to manage your podcasts. I'm on blacktop all but 5-7 miles a night and run a lot of 4 lane highway at 75MPH. I'm also in a sleeper 100% of the time so if I need a nap I have that option, but try to keep the wheels rolling so the $$$ keeps rolling in. :)
     
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