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What is a 'practical' mile?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Songster, Aug 6, 2013.

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  1. Aug 6, 2013 #1
    Songster

    Songster Light Load Member

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    I read on someone's post that they aren't paid by the miles on the odometer, but by some pre-determined distance the company has said that it is from Point A to Point B.
    Sounds like a great way to fudge drivers...establishing a distance on their books that doesn't match reality. Forgive me for being skeptical, but it's part of the whole 'horror stories' and 'they rip you off' mantra you read about everywhere.

    Here's where I saw 'practical' miles.

    http://cretecarrierjobs.com/truck-driving-pay-scale
     
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  3. Aug 6, 2013 #2
    379exhd

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    Prac miles are determined by a software mapping company like PC miler. Calculates the truck miles post office to Post office or zip to zip, using practical truck miles (shortest time) that's a lot better than HHG (truck shortest mileage). I don't know of any companies that pay off the hub at this point I know there are a few out there but don't know their names and who they are. Could be a lot worse you could be getting paid in air miles.
     
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  4. Aug 6, 2013 #3
    deskdriver

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    We use pc miler to figure driver payrole. The practical setting seems to be pretty fair when compaired to the odometer miles the drivers turn in for their IFTA reports, Some times the pc miler pays less than hub and sometimes it pays more miles than hub so it equals out over time. Some companies use the shortest miles setting which routes on local roads and highways rather than the expressways and that can make a difference, for example Saint Louis,MO to Amherst,NH: 63116 to 03031 on shortest miles shows 1163.3 miles and on practical it shows 1198.2 that is a difference of 34.9 miles and if you are paid .40 cpm that equals out to $13.96 on that run and that can sure add up over the course of a year. another thing is the practical miles is normally faster because you can average a higher MPH on expressways (especially in the winter on northern roads) as opposed to 2 lane roads. Hopefully that helps to answer your question, if not please let me know what else you are wondering.

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  5. Aug 6, 2013 #4
    CaptainKirk

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    Zip to zip. Rips you off for about 8-10% of driven miles. At least that is what my experience has been over the last 20 weeks. I have never had pcmiler miles greater than driven miles, so I don't expect it will ever even out in my case.
     
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  7. Aug 6, 2013 #5
    RERM

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    Other than ripping off the driver, why not pay Odometer miles from a pre-planned, pre-approved (by shipper and receiver) route?...I'm just a newbie, so it might be a dumb question...
     
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  8. Aug 6, 2013 #6
    Songster

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    So...there's this thing called PC Miler, whether it's a book, a computer program, a website, whatever, that gives them mileage, but has different 'settings' they can tweak to their liking.

    What is a hub?

    As if we don't have enough terms of employment and pay factors to worry about, ('some companies do this, some companies do that') now throw in the HOW behind their computation of mileage. Geez, what a hassle.

    I guess this is the kind of thing an O/O learns to ask before deciding who to run for. I agree, that over time, the money adds up. And I would definitely want to know how that's going to work. Newbies don't care. The companies don't want you to care. If you ask in advance, they'd say 'potential troublemaker' and figure you won't be around long anyway cause you're smart enough to figure out what's not in your best interests.
     
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  9. Aug 6, 2013 #7
    FlexinTarzan

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    For the OP...one thing Crete will not voluntarily tell you...is that they do NOT PAY *Inner-City. An example of this would be, Lets say you deliver in Atlanta and than your next load picks up in Atlanta.....you might have to drive 25+ miles to the shipper FOR FREE.
     
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  10. Aug 6, 2013 #8
    Songster

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    Wow, yet ANOTHER example. Does the game EVER stop? Like I just said in the previous post...

    "Newbies don't care. The companies don't want you to care. If you ask in advance, they'd say 'potential troublemaker' and figure you won't be around long anyway cause you're smart enough to figure out what's not in your best interests."

    It may apply to the experienced driver as well. Ask too many questions, don't get hired.
     
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  11. Aug 6, 2013 #9
    thelushlarry

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    How many seconds are there in a New York minute?:biggrin_25513:
     
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  12. Aug 6, 2013 #10
    slim shady

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    I think your looking for the random thoughts thread

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