Scratching noise when the jake is working on low rpm or high rpm (12-13) (18).
just changed the rockers, but only the last 3.
any ideas what that is.
Scratching nois after engine brake is on. Volvo 670 cummins isx 400
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If you have an ISX with a DPF the engine brakes work a little differently. The ECM will actually command the turbo to close to increase exhaust back pressure to increase load on the engine to increase the engine braking power. Air rushing through the turbo or the change of flow that is going through the turbo could be what you are hearing. Is this noise something that just started? Any way you could make a video of it and upload it to youtube or something?
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The VGT turbo has a travel range from 0 to 100%. From about 5-70%, it will provide boost for combustion, but above 70%, although it will provide boost, it will provide the excess back-pressure needed to force exhaust gases into the EGR system, so that it can 'Overcome' that boost at the intake manifold. It is this same excess in exhaust back-pressure that is needed for the engine brake, so between 70% and 100%, there is little increase in boost gain, but much back-pressure gain. When this is happening, the turbo's actuating ring is extended past the main housing and relies on a keyed retainer ring in the most rear housing to keep it in place. This retainer ring suffers heat expansion on a constant basis and has been known to vibrate at high frequency as it gets worn. The sound is almost Identical in nature to the sound produced if the turbine were to touch the housing. This annoying 'squeal' is actually not nearly as harmful as it would seem, but can easily confuse a driver or mechanic into thinking the turbo is bad. If this vibration becomes severe to the point of fluctuating the engine during over-closed conditions, then it is time to replace the turbocharger. Usually, by the time it gets this worn, the rest of the turbo will show signs of failure as well.LTA913 Thanks this. -
It started after I changed the rockers. Two days before now.
920k miles on the clock. EGR was turned off and disconnected two years
ago.
maybe I should change the first 3 rockers too, just to balance the pressure
on the cylinders? Or it doesn't matter?
its defiantly not the turbo! The sound is coming from the engine, I can
even feel the pedal jerk. The whole frikin engine starts shaking. I'm on the road right now
and try to stay away from the jake, but have the donnar pass in front of me)) -
No DPF on the truck
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just in case you are not aware of this...
http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...s-deleting-egr-create-heat-2.html#post3372206
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http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...s-eighteen-wheelers/220280-isx-600-turbo.html -
When u replaced the rockecrs did u check that they properly sat down in place they have what i would call washers on both sides on the shaft and that has to spin freely even if u tight the rockers down also check for any kind of boost or exhaust leak
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