Quallcomm & HOS

You made the correct decision. If you drove while out of hours and got caught, the mentor is not going to admit he ordered you to violate HOS rules; he will throw you under the bus to protect himself.

 

Company may not do anything to you but if you get in an accident the first thing they're going to check are your logs. If you're in violation guess whose ### is going to be in a sling? Yep, yours!

 

was delivery made on time?

 

The E logs the company drivers and some O/O use at the place we're leased on let would have allowed him to stop, once he reached the city limits and go to off duty driving. They get 50 miles a week of off duty driving. So they could have easily have done something similar to what Powder Joints said.

I know a lot of the E log drivers that when they get to the city they are suppose to unload at, and log off until they get to the shipper or receiver. Depends how many hours of off duty driving they have left.

 

Log "off duty driving" with a loaded trailer?

 

Exactly....that post was a home run....your co-driver/trainer/mentor/ was WRONG completely WRONG....he should've shook your hand and told you GREAT JOB.....you did the CORRECT thing not only the right thing but the LEGAL thing..."IF" you would've been involved in even the simplest or even the most minor of accidents the companies 1st words would have been ..."you've got a co-driver...why didn't you wake him.....instead of pushing the envelope"....Keep on doing what's legal...you'll never ever regret it. GOOD JOB......

 

Armyguy....1 minute or 1 hour...makes no difference....if and accident should occur. Not only the OP, but the company can and would be held liable in court...if you're gonna give advice give the right advice...wrong is wrong...illegal is illegal...whether it's minute over or a day...these facts will come out in court...why chance it.....

 

What you are referring to is called "Personal Conveyance", even though it is not spelled out in the rules and regulations, it is covered in the "interpretations" although vaguely.

In the interpretation one thing is very clear...you must be empty! Bobtail or "unladen", not carrying freight, and distance is the real "questionable" point of discussion, since the interpretation says "short distance". WA State does not accept personal conveyance if you have a trailer, only bobtail. They consider the trailer to "part of the freight", or "use in commerce"...

http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tr...ations/174141-personal-conveyance-thread.html

 

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There is a grace period on the elogs I have used that will allow you to move a mile or so without changing duty status. Your right in better than 3 million miles I have never had a logbook violation ticket. As far as the local rules about multiple stops within the mcity or township, and staying on duty line 4 it is not a coffee shop story. SO if anything it is showing you have no idea of what your talking about.

Taken right off the FMCSA webpage.http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu...fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=395.8&guidence=Y

Question 6: How should multiple short stops in a town or city be recorded on a record of duty status?
Guidance: All stops made in any one city, town, village or municipality may be computed as one. In such cases the sum of all stops should be shown on a continuous line as on-duty (not driving).The aggregate driving time between such stops should be entered on the record of duty status immediately following the on-duty (not driving) entry. The name of the city, town, village, or municipality, followed by the State abbreviation where all the stops took place, must appear in the “remarks” section of the record of duty status.

Apparently your the one whom does no know what they speak of..