schneider questions

Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by jtaran06, Feb 20, 2008.

  1. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member

    Lol Im on too many threads. It depends, your pay that is, on what account you run and how they set up your pay. Some accounts are salaried and others are paid by the mile. I know that in my specific situation, I run the same stops daily to the same locations and it never changes, my milage is always the same to about 1 or 2 miles each day. In my situation, Im paid weekly and the pay is the same each week. SOmetimes we have to work an extra day and then I get paid for it. However, if I don't work on a Saturday because the roads were closed, then I have to run on Sunday to make up and I don't get extra...Im still working five days.
    I assume that the other runs that have you going to X, B, D and everywhere in between and it changes each day...thats going to be paid by the mile.
    Also, in my situation, I get paid x amount...which to some may not seem like as much as regular OTR drivers. But keep in mind that Im home daily, two days off a week, holidays off, and I drive less than 500miles a day.
     
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  3. bduke

    bduke Light Load Member

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    Companies!!! Pay your driver what they are worth!!!
     
  4. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member


    Well in many / most cases, a driver gets paid by the mile and they don't get paid when the wheels aren't turning. Actually since you are sitting and just looking pretty, you arent working at all, so you aren't 'working for free'...you're just not working, period. Its part of the job.


    Just because you get paid by the hour doesn't mean much to me at all. Big Whoopidy. You can choose wherever you want to work and think you are the smartest person on the world...that doesnt mean you are, or anywhere in the ballpark.
    Drivers drive, I don't see what the big deal is when a driver isn't drivign for a short period of time and doesn't get paid for it. Most companies pay detention after a certain period of time. I don't see why one should get paid when they aren't even doing anything. You apparently chose to work somewhere where they pay you to sit on your bass and do nothing. If Im not doing my job, I don't see why I should get paid for not doing it.
     
  5. truckin916

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    Why would you get paid?

    Because I am still on duty and working for the company. Am I at home or am I just sitting here because the docks are full and I am waiting to unload/load. Are you or anyone else okay with giving up your time and working for free?

    What would they be paying you for?

    See above.



    Truck driving isn't an hourly job really. You get paid by the mile, so if you are sitting you aren't making anything.

    That is where you chose to work not me. I am paid by the hour. If I sit, I still make money. Don't fault me for choosing where I work. I mearly suggest that drivers be paid for all of their time. I understand that the majority of otr drivers are paid by the mile. Fine. Just pay them for on duty time spent other than driving.

    However, a lot of companies, including Schneider pay if you are sitting for a certain period of time....generally if you are empty and available and you sit for 24 hours then you would get layover pay.

    Isn't that nice of them. To pay you after 24 hours. Like I said, you are still in the service of the company and only after 24 hours they decide that you are worthy of layover pay. I find the fact that any driver, who has to give up time to their comany, is deplorable!

    I believe most companies do what they can to keep you moving all the time, since they don't make money if you are sitting either.






    You never said you worked hourly, you had asked "Why would you by okay with that? What am I missing here?" So I answered you. Don't flame me for answering your question. Are you really under the impression that most drivers get paid hourly? Do you really think hourly pay is better? Would you really expect a company to pay an OTR driver 24 hours a day? Get real! You don't know much about the industry obviously.
    I guess that the majority of trucking companies are "deplorable" then because they don't pay you when you are sitting, not working. sheesh...
     
  6. truckin916

    truckin916 Medium Load Member

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    EXACTLY!! He asked a question because he doesn't understand (after 10 years of driving according to his profile) and then flames me for answering him....what an idiot.
     
  7. bduke

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    I do not get paid to sit on my bass as you said. Unless of course you are talking about driving. However, if I get to a cutomer to either load or unload and I have to wait, I am paid for all of that time. I haul ammonia in a tanker and it is not unsual to spend 3 or 4 hours to get loaded.

    I am not trying to be a bass on here. I know how the majority of drivers are paid. I would just like the companies to start paying their drivers for on duty time other than driving.
     
  8. bduke

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    You never said you worked hourly, you had asked "Why would you by okay with that? What am I missing here?" So I answered you. Don't flame me for answering your question. Are you really under the impression that most drivers get paid hourly?

    I apologize if I flamed you. I know that most drivers are paid by the mile.
    Do you really think hourly pay is better?

    Absolutely!

    Would you really expect a company to pay an OTR driver 24 hours a day? Get real! You don't know much about the industry obviously.

    No I do expect an OTR company or my company to pay drivers 24 hours a day. I do however expect to be paid from the time I come on duty until I go off duty at the end of the day. I think that all drivers should be paid in some fashion during that time.

    I guess that the majority of trucking companies are "deplorable" then because they don't pay you when you are sitting, not working. sheesh...[/quote]

    I guess you answered that question for yourself.
     
  9. ziggystyles

    ziggystyles Road Train Member


    Just for the fun of it, how much do you make per hour...Id like to compare with what my salary pay breaks down to per hour.


    Being a driver and on-duty just means you are on duty and not driving (which sounds awfully familiar to what the logbooks say). Because, when you are employed as a driver and are not driving...well...you aren't driving which is what you get paid for, unless your company pays otherwise. I know without a shadow of a doubt, that if OTR companies started paying by the hour, theyd go bankrupt within a month or less. Id make it look like it took me 30 hours to get from Denver to Salt Lake City, while at the same time making my logbooks look like I did it in 8. The way it is, companies pay by the mile (for the most part) because no matter what, they arent going to pay you more than they paid frank for running the same route last week if the distance is the same. It keeps their costs low, keeps you rolling to your destination to then pick up another load.

    If you run the same route daily, then it should maybe be considered salary since nothing changes. If you run a relatively local thing, then maybe by the hour. Paying an OTR driver by the hour would just lead to problems.
     
  10. bduke

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    ziggystyles. My hourly pay is $21.25. My base salary is $40,800.00. That does not include overtime.

    While you figure out you salary let me ask you a couple of questions.

    What does it cost you for health benefits. How does your retirement system work and how much does it cost. Do you get any paid personal time off. I am home almost every night, are you. When I am away driving, my company pays for my meals and hotel. What about yours.
     
  11. bduke

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    ziggystyles.

    By the way, my company is not union just in case you were wondering.
     
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