One truck, one trailer, NO DVIR!

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by VisionLogistics, Oct 18, 2013.

  1. VisionLogistics

    VisionLogistics Road Train Member

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    I am not suggesting that a driver not do a PTI, or log the time for it. I was just pointing out that as a one-truck / trailer carrier, you don't have to log, report, document, whatever word you wish to use, the DVIR. Will it save you a windfall of time by not doing it? No. Of course not. But if you ever forget and happen to get a DOT bear trying to violate you for it, you'll know better and be in a position to defend that action.
     
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  3. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    I had been aware of the 1 tractor 1 trailer ruling, but good to see the OP make others aware of lesser known current regulations.

    BTW, FMCSA is proposing to cut paperwork by eliminating DVIR reporting, unless defects are found.
    Here is a link to an article by Trucking News Online

    An excerpt from the article:
    "Under the proposed change announced today, commercial truck drivers would continue conducting pre- and post-trip inspections, but would only file a DVIR if defects or deficiencies were discovered by or reported to the driver during the day’s operations."
     
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  4. Richter

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    but that the point, you DO have to log it. The DVIR has nothing to do with the 15 min on line 4. You still must log the pti. What are you guys not getting? Read the regulation. Read what a DVIR is. Thats the only thing you can skip, not the logging of a pti.
     
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  5. truckon

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    Don't you think that if we had to log it that in one of the many inspections members have ONE dot officer would have caught it? Have you ever had an officer tell you you had to log it, or is this all an assumption your making? ?
     
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    if you own the truck you are always looking,listening,and paying attention to it.
     
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  7. VisionLogistics

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    Yes. I'm agreeing with you, so what's the issue here? I think that everyone knows that they need to conduct AND LOG a PTI. The point to this thread was just a reminder that under certain circumstances, a small carrier may not have to DOCUMENT THE DVIR, and if he is being violated by the DOT for failing to do so, the driver has recourse / standing to fight the violation. Perhaps I could have worded the OP a little clearer, but it seems that everyone else knew what I was trying to point out, anyway.
     
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  8. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    Richter, your words were "What are you guys not getting?"
    I think it's better worded, What are you not getting?
    I didn't see any conflict of facts between the OP (VisionLogistics) and you. He just narrowed down a particular part of DVIR regulation, dealing with a specific scenario.

    BTW, I understood you just perfectly, VisionLogistics. Good original post & worded well.
    No need to make your OP any clearer.
    I think the confusion came from using the term log. Some people won't look at the entire content and take the word log to only mean "pertaining ONLY to the daily LOG", when it can also be used as an act/verb, like you did.
     
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    The most misunderstood part of that regulation is.........


    one truck one trailer, and ONE driver !!!!


    More than 1 truck, trailer or driver, and the dvir must be filled out.
     
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  10. KW Cajun

    KW Cajun Road Train Member

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    I've always thought it to be ONE driver, as well.
    But either I'm missing it or sumptin', but can't find the "one driver" part in FMCSA regs.
    All the references I find only list the carriers with 1-truck 1-trailer.
    Do you have a link?
     
  11. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    Depending on company policy or what you want to do you need to log at least 1 pretrip or 1 post trip / day. The only way cetain+ is right is if he logs post trips. Either way, ya gotta log one of um.
     
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