Carb forced me out of Calif.

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  1. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    Well as you all know; California will not allow any older trucks on their roads after Jan 1. Even though I live there I cannot even drive my truck home after Jan 1. I refuse to put a DPF on my truck and shorten its life. My only choice is to move my business to Arizona. I am renting a room there and transferring all my business operations over the line. Arizona will get my apportioned plates, insurance, fuel, all the maintenance on the truck and trailer, registration money, state income tax etc... This is going to cost the state dearly in lost revenue. There are thousands of us who will do the same. Border states will benefit greatly.
    I must say it does bring me satisfaction to simply cut them out of my life and move on. Any government that would do this to its taxpayers deserves the coming fallout.
    If anyone else has done this, I would like to know what the best way of starting the process and in what sequence to get everything transferred. Also, if my calif apportioned plates don't expire until April, will I need to pay for new ones in Arizona if I do this next month? Anything else that I need to be aware of would be appreciated.
     
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  3. Boardhauler

    Boardhauler Road Train Member

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    How much research have you done on a DPF?

    I was preparing to do exactly what you're doing, but I've decided I like my job enough that I will probably retrofit or buy a compliant truck.

    If I retrofit I will install a filter that will not interface with my ecm, which gives me some options. On my Freightliner it would be easy to configure the exhaust so I could route it through the filter, weedburner style, when I cross the state line & then change it back to the factory stacks when I cross back out. If I wanted to take a chance I could just remove the filter media from the can & truck away merrily.

    I think this is sort of like a big game & it shouldn't be that hard to think one step ahead of the f*#>ing government.

    I also don't see how they can realistically enforce this. There are just too many people trhat are not going to be compliant Jan. 1st.

    I've also been told that there are still court cases pending that could change the situation.

    I also believe that the technology will improve and prices will decrease over time. For this reason alone I am trying not to do anything until I absolutely have to.

    But it's nice to know that I have a friend in Idaho with a big enough yard for me to park the truck and set up a travel trailer to stay in til I could get settled.
     
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  4. trees

    trees Road Train Member

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    It's about revenue. They'll be happy to write tickets, not too happy if they spend a bunch of money to enforce a regulation, and then they find everybody in compliance...

    The green regulation stuff is "feel good" stuff, it really isn't making a big dramatic change, but it's something people can feel good about. (and they can write regulatory laws with big fines and generate revenue, that's the real thing going on here...)
     
  5. Briana

    Briana Bobtail Member

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    Im planning to do that as well but im hoping that Carb would give us little more time since there are little too many people without filter. Almost 50 or small fleets are 07or older .
    Has anyone heard anything about extension or exempt?
     
  6. luvtotruck

    luvtotruck Road Train Member

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    Don't quote me but I heard you can buy points for your truck to run in Ca. but I don't know what this means? I think they will allow you to run there but you will have to pay per visit or per year if you are registered and plated there? I don't know but I heard something like this.
     
  7. G/MAN

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    The extension ends January 1. You could still be ticketed, so I understand, prior to that point if you have not registered your truck. I have not heard of any exemptions that extend beyond January. It is going to be very interesting to see how this impacts California's economy. I would not go to the expense of buying a new or newer truck just to run California. It would be cheaper to relocate.

    You may want to check with Arizona and see if you need to do anything prior to your move. You will probably need to change your pcs-150 to reflect the change of address. It is now time to renew your UCR. You have until Decenber 31 to pay this tax. It would be good if you had your new address changed prior to that time. You may be able to wait until it is time to renew your base plate to buy a plate in Arizona. Of course, you can also check with California to see if you need to do anything with them prior to moving. Your insurance rates could also change, but any rate differential likely won't go into effect until it is time to renew.
     
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  8. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    I just talked to a Calif Hwy Patrol Officer who is my BIT inspector. Here is how they are going to enforce it. They are requiring all brokers to check your CARB compliance before you can be given a load. The penalty will fall on the brokers for not enforcing compliance. We simply cant run a load in Calif without a written certification of compliance through the broker.
     
  9. areelius

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    The word is that this is the end of extensions. They are going to enforce this now. You can buy some more time by applying for the DPF filter. Because of the backlog of trucks, they will extend your time until May 2014. I am not going to spend 15K on a filter that my truck was never designed to run with. There are too many cases of these filters causing damage to trucks. For me it has become a matter of principle. The government has encroached too far with this, and I think it is time to move out of a state that does this to its own tax base. We should make them choke on this law by crippling their economy and refusing to do business there.
     
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  10. Semi Crazy

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    What if you have a direct customer?
     
  11. areelius

    areelius Light Load Member

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    I don't know about a direct customer. I would think they will make any company that uses trucks to move their goods in or out of the state to certify those trucks as compliant. They have had many years to plan this and once it takes effect, there wont be any fighting or getting around it. They are hellbent to force their will on small business and make our lives impossible in Calif. The Calif Hwy Ptrl of course will check compliance any time they do a safety inspection or pull over a truck for any reason. The fines will be enormous for non compliance and many trucks will be impounded until the fines are paid.
     
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