Logging 10 hours of Off Duty

I never use sleeper. You can sleep in the truck while off duty

 

I've seen the inspections come thru for false logs when drivers log nothing but off duty. If the officer is a prick they can nail for you that. They'll look at your logs, then ask you where you slept. If you say in my sleeper, your logs are technically false. It doesn't happen much, but it can happen. Don't seem to have those issues with sleeper berth, but again if the officer is a prick you could have a problem with that too. Try to log it as you do it and that's the best anyone can ask from you. Then again I'm not really worried about picky DOT I'm more worried about ambitious lawyer.

 

If your in the sleeper, you must log sleeper!!! If your not in the sleeper, then you log off duty, it's that simple.

If you park the truck at a truck stop and go to a friends,you log off duty. If your not in the sleeper, you cannot legally say you were.

 

That's silly. When I'm in the truck I float between the back and the front. While off duty I may sit in the front eating and watching movies for hours then I may lay in the back for a nap. Is this not off duty? Or do I literally have to separate these times on my log as off duty while in the front and sleeper while in back. Seems anal to me

 

So when you get to the truck stop, you need to log off duty if you are going into the store, take a shower, etc, but when you get into the sleeper you log sleeper berth. Is this correct?

What if you spend some time in the store (phone calls, fax, dinner, laundry, you chat up a few interesting fellows, the big game is on, etc)? Let's say you spend 3 hrs in there (for sake of argument) and you go into the sleeper. Are you supposed to log 3 hrs off duty and 7 hrs in sleeper berth? If this is correct, what happens if you have an accident during the next 14? Are they going to tell you that that you only had 7 hrs in the sleeper berth and you didn't get enough sleep?

Maybe to cover your rear, it is best to log off duty before you get out of the truck, and when you get back in, log say, one hour in the store so that you have enough sleeper time? Or is that pesky DOT guy going to wait until you fall asleep, bang on your truck to wake you up, and see if you logged the change? All this on your "off" time.

I can see DOT giving you a hard time at a scale house if they went through your log and you had 20 days without ever logging the sleeper berth. But to wait for you at the place that you are going to legally stop for your time "off", after running legal hours, so that you can remain legal, to fine you on a technicality, honestly, that guy should burn in hell. He should have a hot pichfork shoved up his ### for eternity over every "technicality" in his life. Jack###.

He should be somewhere making sure trucks are SAFE, not this BS.

 

I log all my off duty time as sleeper except half hour break and reset.

 

Whether they try to be or not, it is simple to show them the law that went into effect February of last year about all time spent in a PARKED commercial vehicle is now considered off duty.

 

Yeah that's what I do, i just put whatever the pricks need to see. I log 8 hrs sb, uninterrupted. If I go in a restaurant while logged in sleeper, I pay cash and dont leave any electronic tracks,, and dont use rewards cards, ATM, etc. I try to log it as I do it, but sometimes I'm just not ready to sleep, like if I take another 10hr break within ten hours of the previous one. If the a-hole watches me walk out and busts me, then I'll congratulate him for doing his part in whatever it is he's trying to accomplish.

Thats t-shirt-worthy stuff,, made me bust out laughing in the restaurant!! (I'm logged off duty tho, so it's all legit)

 

there is nothing in the regs that say you have to have any sleep before driving and nothing that says you have to provide any receipts to an officer. all the regs say is you must be off duty for at least 10 hours before driving. We use line 1 all the time while on the road and if DOT ever was to ask for a motel receipt they can get a search warrant, just the same with fuel receipts. Give nothing and read the regs over and over till you know them and fight every thing. even when your wrong some times you can bluff your way out, because the dot don't know all the regs either.

 

Here's what I don't understand why in the hell is everybody worried about receipts? Put the ####### things in your wallet and tell them you overnight that #### back to the office! They'll never catch you. They can search your truck without permission (don't believe me ask OOIDA) they CANNOT search your person. Sleeper off duty it doesn't matter. I'm going to laugh when you guys logging off duty for your 10 get woke up and show your log though. You have a case when you're logging sleeper. You don't when you're logging off duty. Off duty doesn't constitute sleeping sleeper does. Law states they can't wake a sleeping driver. I show off duty at the house everything else says sleeper. Then again dot will never see 3/4 of my receipts they're long gone and on file at my accounts office. And I use sebody sales fuel card so good luck tracking it back to my company